What does it mean "chance" in POE?

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GreyLensman wrote:

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I'm saying that if the "chance" is not described and not known is initial and final state of that chance function counter (if it exist) in some circumstances may never be recalled (in case of specific gems onnections).

This sounds like you are saying that, if the player does not know what the probability is, then the code can't know either. Since that makes no sense, I'm sure I'm misunderstanding you.

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Llama8 wrote:

I believe that "chance" in PoE relates solely to the probability that a player will engage with non-ferrous metallic headgear if RNG doesn't go their way or if they don't understand how a mechanic works (including aforementioned RNG). Said probability is considered lucky (or unlucky depending on how you view it) if a one-in-a-thousand event (item drop, boss appearing in delve, etc) doesn't occur on the first try.

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neosphoros wrote:

So... waht does it mean for example: 40% chance "of something" and what is the different between: "70%"?

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Llama8 wrote:

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neosphoros wrote:

So... waht does it mean for example: 40% chance "of something" and what is the different between: "70%"?

It means pretty much what the common usage of the phrase means. If you had a 40% chance to hit with an attack, an average of 40 out of 100 swings would hit & deal damage, the other 60 would miss.

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mark1030 wrote:

That’s not what he said at all. Chance is chance. It doesn’t get influenced by previous instances. Shagsbeard made a joke about dice at the beginn8ng of this thread but that is how chance works. Get a die. You have a 1 in 6 chance to roll a 1. Your next roll doesn’t care if you rolled a 1 last roll or not. It’s always the same chance. That’s a universal definition of chance. If you have a 10% chance to blind on hit, pretend you are rolling a 10 sided die. Every time you hit, roll the die. If you get a 1, you blind. Anything else, you don’t.

You seem to be trying to make “chance” mean something it doesn’t.

Don’t be confused by the evasion example. That was showing a an example of system that in fact is not chance based but entropy based.

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GreyLensman wrote:

It sounds like you just want GGG to publish the detailed logic for all routines in the code where an outcome is determined by some combination of parameters and calculations. From other posts, I have gotten the impression that you don't really trust developers, so I imagine you would also want to see the code, just to confirm that it's really doing what they say it's doing.

This thread belongs in the suggestions forum. And I imagine you don't really want everything, so you probably want to give them your list of what you do think players need to know.

Good luck!

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I do not need the code. I need description to verify with my observation.

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neosphoros wrote:

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mark1030 wrote:

That’s not what he said at all. Chance is chance. It doesn’t get influenced by previous instances. Shagsbeard made a joke about dice at the beginn8ng of this thread but that is how chance works. Get a die. You have a 1 in 6 chance to roll a 1. Your next roll doesn’t care if you rolled a 1 last roll or not. It’s always the same chance. That’s a universal definition of chance. If you have a 10% chance to blind on hit, pretend you are rolling a 10 sided die. Every time you hit, roll the die. If you get a 1, you blind. Anything else, you don’t.

You seem to be trying to make “chance” mean something it doesn’t.

Don’t be confused by the evasion example. That was showing a an example of system that in fact is not chance based but entropy based.

forgive me but...

H O W
D O
Y O U
K N O W ?

(if it is not described)

Chance can be everything and nothing.