Path of Exile and p2w
" Here's the funny thing about that guy's post: he thinks that part is up for debate. p2w is legally defined in most first world countries and their definitions are basically identical What you witness here is a group of hardcore poe fans who are aware of the negative connotations of p2w, so they are applying a half baked "no true scottsman" fallacy to poe in order to separate the two... as if that's going to help the problem at all. |
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" +100, Shags. These p2w threads are so pointless. May your maps be bountiful, exile
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"A legal definition of p2w? Where the hell would that be written? p2w is nerd slang and its definition is debated since the invention of f2p. There are a lot of different f2p payment models and the shift from free to p2w is fluent. Being fanatic and calling absolutely every marginal advantage from buying p2w has sadly not helped preventing the advent of f2p. Nowadays it's much more about the fairness of the model in general. And PoE is in my opinion solidly fair. "I think the model of PoE is somewhat rare. Most f2p games I played give you options to gain the shop currency by playing, but at such a low rate that many end up paying (pay to progress). | |
" In the US, Hawley Bill 05-2019: " Imagine a bunch of old and out of touch politicians coming up with a definition that is inline with everyone that has common sense. That's how bad this "debate" is. |
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Thing is that stash tabs DON'T meet the definition there. A player with four blank tabs and the support of his friends will do just as well as someone with stash tabs and the support of his friends.
Stash tabs are helpful in playing solo. Very much so. But if you have a friend who's willing to sell your stuff for you and do all the trading and what not, having a stash tab or a dozen isn't going to help at all. You are not prevented from any aspect of the game, nor can stash tabs get you past any progress block or achievement. That would be strong enough to stand up in court if anyone was stupid enough to try this case. |
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" Sorry but it's a crystal clear case of purchasing microtransactions in order to circumvent the game's deliberately bad design with handling loot and trade. Your argument is as stupid as EA's "surprise mechanics". |
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" You can define your terms to fit your argument all you want, on either side, it doesn't matter. It is what it is, you call it p2w...so what. Don't like it, don't play. At least have the courage of your conviction. |
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Ah... the ol' "crystal clear" defense.
Stash tabs don't do any of the listed things: They don't increase your rewards in any way. You can store rewards that you get. If you want, you can trade items away and not have to store them. If you would like to store them you can give them to a friend or store them on a mule. In no way are you being deprived of a reward because you don't have a tab. There are no barriers to progression that a stash tab is required to break through. No where does the game require tabs. You want tabs. We get that. But it's not required at any stage. There is no achievement in the game that requires a tab. You can build any character, you can gain any item you want through trade or by having a friend pass you the item. There is literally nothing in the game that you can't do without tabs. If you insist that getting items from friends isn't allowed, you'll have to take that to another thread. |
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" It falls under YOUR definition, choosing to disregarding one of three words in the abbreviation. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Aug 3, 2019, 6:14:44 PM
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