General Discussion - Path of Exile and p2w - Forum

Being able to farm for a HH is not winning... it's working.	Posted by Shagsbeard#3964 on Aug 2, 2019, 8:34:29 PM Quote this Post
That is because you're tunneled on a misnomer. p2w is a nontrivial ingame advantage that you can buy with money	Posted by yamface#1022 on Aug 2, 2019, 8:49:44 PM Quote this Post
This game is definitely p2w lol. No amount of whiteknighting will change that :).	Posted by LazelimGiros#3821 on Aug 3, 2019, 2:40:13 AM Quote this Post
thanks for the honour calling me white knight lolololololololo u can win races and leagues w/o any tabs, prove by several players in the past but u can try to disprove that	Posted by Latze#2058 on Aug 3, 2019, 3:23:48 AM Quote this Post
" Latze wrote: u can win races and leagues w/o any tabs, prove by several players in the past It's a stupid argument because you can also win races without dying, right? With your logic, selling hard core revival microtransactions would not be p2w? You can win races without buying anything from the vendor, so again by using your faulty logic, vending could be unlocked only with microtransactions and would still not be p2w. I bet you could win a race with twice the amount of character inventory space while repeatedly only using 1/6 portals. That however doesn't mean that it isn't an advantage to have more character space and portals. A paid advantage is still p2w. " Latze wrote: but u can try to disprove that Spoiler Last edited by putblug#6663 on Aug 3, 2019, 5:41:47 AM	Posted by putblug#6663 on Aug 3, 2019, 5:39:38 AM Quote this Post
The game is b2p with cosmetic item shop and an extended demo version. Without stash tabs the endgame is barely playable. But if you have enough of them there is nothing more useful to buy. p2w games are characterized by ongoing buyable advantages. If you want to play them fully you have to pay constantly or you will fall behind those who do. PoE is not like that. But I still have to criticize GGG. Lootboxes are always predatory even if there is only cosmetic stuff. Its a gambling mechanic that targets vulnerable persons. And the devs know that very well. Bad Bad.	Posted by Goj#6814 on Aug 3, 2019, 6:36:14 AM Quote this Post
" Goj wrote: The game is b2p with cosmetic item shop and an extended demo version. Without stash tabs the endgame is barely playable. But if you have enough of them there is nothing more useful to buy. Not B2P though. You just pretty much sited the definition of "F2P". Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.	Posted by Phrazz#3529 on Aug 3, 2019, 9:18:38 AM Quote this Post
" putblug wrote: It's theoretically pay2win and that's all that matters for the sake of argument. You are paying money to get an advantage, in this case it's having an easier time with the game's deliberately bad design with handling loot and trade. Stash tabs do provide an advantage and if that's not bad enough, they are also paywalled with no ways of grinding them. The only good thing about them are the price and the diminishing returns but that doesn't make the practice of selling benefits any better. It's awful game design that profits on just that, awful design. People that are trying to rebrand it as "just convenience" are no better than EA who are desperately trying to rebrand lootboxes as surprise mechanics.	Posted by putblug#6663 on Aug 3, 2019, 9:40:50 AM Quote this Post
" putblug wrote: People that are trying to rebrand it as "just convenience" are no better than EA who are desperately trying to rebrand lootboxes as surprise mechanics. " LazelimGiros wrote: No amount of whiteknighting will change that :). " yamface wrote: people think stash tabs don't have p2w elements is simply a dishonest facade for people who are in circumstances where they simply can't spend money at the moment. I could go on. If people can't have a discussion without stereotyping people with different opinions then them, they have already lost. It's just a sad way of debating. Stash Tabs being P2W is one subjective interpretation. What P2W is, is another subjective interpretation. If you can't handle the fact that people define things different than you without labeling them into a corner, you have issues. You must be very fun to work with. Enough morals for today. Shame on you. Now, I will go out and have some beer. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Aug 3, 2019, 9:54:27 AM	Posted by Phrazz#3529 on Aug 3, 2019, 9:54:17 AM Quote this Post
" Phrazz wrote: What P2W is, is another subjective interpretation. No. If you truly think it's subjective, you must have been living in a cave without internet for years. " Phrazz wrote: Stash Tabs being P2W is one subjective interpretation. No because they still fall under the definition of P2W. Last edited by putblug#6663 on Aug 3, 2019, 10:23:52 AM	Posted by putblug#6663 on Aug 3, 2019, 10:22:36 AM Quote this Post