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yamface wrote:
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Shagsbeard wrote:
Can't tell what post you're referring to, but I'll blindly tell you that it's not buying tabs that get you a HH. You can do it without ever having bought one. You might have to rely on others to trade goods for you, and you might have to store stuff in an alternate account... but that's about .0003% of the time it would take you to farm a headhunter. Buying tabs doesn't do it.
This is why it's important to go back and reread what I wrote and not just blindly slap the same thing over and over.
And as a fyi, I can tell you don't play endgame at a high level, which is enough to pretty much disqualify your input on HH farming. MF farmers make more than 90% of their profit from selling a bunch of small items in bulk. Nobody.. not even your own guildies and friends is going to be your little trade slave for that.
Personal attacks aside, it's funny and sad to see people claim pay to win without understanding its origin or its context.
Shag's has his own SSF found mirror, if he really wanted a headhunter it's within his reach.
I think it's odd how someone would define the last chase unique as "winning" given that you can beat even the hardest boss without it. But that's why the folks arguing p2w are having to resort to the most literal interpretation. Yet, virtually every game becomes pay to win when you take it so literally, even dropping quarters/tokens in arcade machines since you can't win if you can't play -- and you have to pay to play at all.
The reality is if PoE actually was pay to win none of the folks here would even be around playing to argue in the first place.
But seriously, making an HH the basis of an argument is a bit on the desperate side. If farming the same map for days was necessary to "win" this game would have never grown to what it is now.
Yep, totally over league play.
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Posted bySeCKSEgai#6175on Aug 4, 2019, 1:18:35 AM
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Oh that's hilarious because: finding that mirror out of sheer luck was actually covered in that HH post I wrote. Again, did not read :)
And another thing, HH is far from the "last chase" unique. That is just the belt slot.
This is a character that is build for competitive delving: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Crouching_Tuna/characters?characterName=Tuna
That HH is one of the cheapest items this guy is wearing. 4 shitty stash tabs is not going to get you a competitive build like this. In fact you can get 5 mirrors from the Emperor's Luck divination card set and use that horrendous idea of using your friends as a trade slave and you STILL will not be able to get this level of a build. That is the level of impediment those stash tabs are.
But go on, tell me how you're going to farm 1500 exalts with 4 shitty stash tabs. I'll wait for your reply :)
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Posted byyamface#1022on Aug 4, 2019, 1:34:55 AM
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yamface wrote:
Oh that's hilarious because: finding that mirror out of sheer luck was actually covered in that HH post I wrote. Again, did not read :)
And another thing, HH is far from the "last chase" unique. That is just the belt slot.
This is a character that is build for competitive delving: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Crouching_Tuna/characters?characterName=Tuna
That HH is one of the cheapest items this guy is wearing. 4 shitty stash tabs is not going to get you a competitive build like this. In fact you can get 5 mirrors from the Emperor's Luck divination card set and use that horrendous idea of using your friends as a trade slave and you STILL will not be able to get this level of a build. That is the level of impediment those stash tabs are.
But go on, tell me how you're going to farm 1500 exalts with 4 shitty stash tabs. I'll wait for your reply :)
They will not understand brother, they have potential to whiteknight all day long, its a clearly p2w mechanic:)
I suggest taking a look at Last Epoch they promised a game without p2w stash tabs.
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Posted byLazelimGiros#3821on Aug 4, 2019, 2:50:02 AM
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yamface wrote:
Oh that's hilarious because: finding that mirror out of sheer luck was actually covered in that HH post I wrote. Again, did not read :)
And another thing, HH is far from the "last chase" unique. That is just the belt slot.
This is a character that is build for competitive delving: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Crouching_Tuna/characters?characterName=Tuna
That HH is one of the cheapest items this guy is wearing. 4 shitty stash tabs is not going to get you a competitive build like this. In fact you can get 5 mirrors from the Emperor's Luck divination card set and use that horrendous idea of using your friends as a trade slave and you STILL will not be able to get this level of a build. That is the level of impediment those stash tabs are.
But go on, tell me how you're going to farm 1500 exalts with 4 shitty stash tabs. I'll wait for your reply :)
"Competitive".... unless you're racing to 100 in a fresh league there is no actual competing. Pvp is virtually nonexistent, unless you count the scammers.
Delve got nerfed out of interest.
Oh and most players don't worship streamers and simply play for their own amusement. Hell most don't even make it to maps as is.
But think about what you just wrote, 1500+ exalts - given the rarity of an exalt drop, how many players do you think actually have that kind of interest in the game? There are players who have been here for years who've never seen the final bosses.
I have trouble maintaining interest after 5 maps or less, still managed to beat uber elder, eventually. Hell, even got to him in SSF of all places, then got to him all over again after migrating out and having to restart zana's questline.
I guess its just odd how some people tend to watch the experiences of others and lay claim to them as their own. It's the one thing I miss about the dial-up days, we didn't have folks watching streamers and expecting to have the same experience.
Yep, totally over league play.
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Posted bySeCKSEgai#6175on Aug 4, 2019, 3:25:45 AM
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SeCKSEgai wrote:
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yamface wrote:
Oh that's hilarious because: finding that mirror out of sheer luck was actually covered in that HH post I wrote. Again, did not read :)
And another thing, HH is far from the "last chase" unique. That is just the belt slot.
This is a character that is build for competitive delving: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Crouching_Tuna/characters?characterName=Tuna
That HH is one of the cheapest items this guy is wearing. 4 shitty stash tabs is not going to get you a competitive build like this. In fact you can get 5 mirrors from the Emperor's Luck divination card set and use that horrendous idea of using your friends as a trade slave and you STILL will not be able to get this level of a build. That is the level of impediment those stash tabs are.
But go on, tell me how you're going to farm 1500 exalts with 4 shitty stash tabs. I'll wait for your reply :)
"Competitive".... unless you're racing to 100 in a fresh league there is no actual competing. Pvp is virtually nonexistent, unless you count the scammers.
Delve got nerfed out of interest.
Oh and most players don't worship streamers and simply play for their own amusement. Hell most don't even make it to maps as is.
But think about what you just wrote, 1500+ exalts - given the rarity of an exalt drop, how many players do you think actually have that kind of interest in the game? There are players who have been here for years who've never seen the final bosses.
I have trouble maintaining interest after 5 maps or less, still managed to beat uber elder, eventually. Hell, even got to him in SSF of all places, then got to him all over again after migrating out and having to restart zana's questline.
I guess its just odd how some people tend to watch the experiences of others and lay claim to them as their own. It's the one thing I miss about the dial-up days, we didn't have folks watching streamers and expecting to have the same experience.
dont feed the trolls, let them think its pay2win
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Posted byLatze#2058on Aug 4, 2019, 3:38:51 AM
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SeCKSEgai wrote:
"Competitive".... unless you're racing to 100 in a fresh league there is no actual competing. Pvp is virtually nonexistent, unless you count the scammers.
Delve got nerfed out of interest.
In other words, you don't like delve, therefore it is not competitive. Too bad the world doesn't work like that. There is a ladder for delve, a sizable group of people are competing in it. It is competitive.
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Oh and most players don't worship streamers and simply play for their own amusement. Hell most don't even make it to maps as is.
But think about what you just wrote, 1500+ exalts - given the rarity of an exalt drop, how many players do you think actually have that kind of interest in the game? There are players who have been here for years who've never seen the final bosses.
I have trouble maintaining interest after 5 maps or less, still managed to beat uber elder, eventually. Hell, even got to him in SSF of all places, then got to him all over again after migrating out and having to restart zana's questline.
Great. That has nothing to do with p2w. I can start naming hundreds of p2w games for you, but as long as I play casual, they are suddenly not a p2w game? Maybe for me specifically.. not for the game in general.
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I guess its just odd how some people tend to watch the experiences of others and lay claim to them as their own. It's the one thing I miss about the dial-up days, we didn't have folks watching streamers and expecting to have the same experience.
Big red flag for strawman. I never claimed that as my own. But let me talk in your language. You think racing is the only "competitive" thing to do in this game so I'll talk about what I've done then. The gladiator was once world #29 in ssfhc. That character was retired from play like.. 1.5 months ago. It's still rank 300 something even after not playing it at all since. The problem with shitty statements like the one you made is that it doesn't work on people that are actually good at this game.
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Posted byyamface#1022on Aug 4, 2019, 3:46:28 AM
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lol troll
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Posted byLatze#2058on Aug 4, 2019, 3:49:51 AM
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It's like if saddropuser was real...
Wait, you forgot to link mirrors and exalts and chaos in the post.
Yep, totally over league play.
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Posted bySeCKSEgai#6175on Aug 4, 2019, 4:08:30 AM
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tabs are not winning though, people "win" the game without access to them at all (see the custom leagues)
Their advantages are fairly minor and quickly become an annoyance (see qq add auto sort/x tab/delete content button because i am to lazy to do things), everything they offer can be done another way, you can trade without using premium tabs, you can get more storage without paying a thing (20+ character slots and you are allowed mule accounts)
Ancestral Bond. It's a thing that does stuff. -Vipermagi
He who controls the pants controls the galaxy. - Rick & Morty S3E1
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Posted bylagwin1980#2224on Aug 4, 2019, 4:40:15 AM
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It's like if saddropuser was real...
Wait, you forgot to link mirrors and exalts and chaos in the post.
That's a yikes. So I guess the moral of the story is: think twice before you try condescending criticism, else you end up in the hole you're in :)
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Posted byyamface#1022on Aug 4, 2019, 4:46:14 AM
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