GGG do not give in to the crying masses

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How does having floating damage numbers make the game more mindless?


In the literal way that you are fed numbers, and no longer have to understand the mechanics and the stats in order to obtain that knowledge.

But i was thinking of it more as a symptom, of people suggesting things that they mistakenly think benefits them in their constant quest to make everything more "accessible".

Edit: arg double posted -.-
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
Last edited by Crackmonster#7709 on Mar 12, 2013, 11:33:26 PM
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I would like to point out however, that I'm not entirely disagreeing with your, simply stating that there are changes that can be made that will benefit everyone without ruining YOUR game. FFA loot is fine and dandy, and I understand the appeal. But a loot system that is configurable per-party is still a benefit to everyone.


And so it begins.. and with that they end the challenge because people are people they will chose the safe route, even if the dangerous one is more interesting. This is step one in the process of ditching FFA.

As i said, eternally people will push for more mindlessness, it is in our nature.

After watching your topic since its inception, I came to the conclusion that it's still a troll topic. It's not a typical troll, it's a plain-sight bait, refreshed with periodic provocations to a big part of the player base and free bumps from the minority you "represent".

So what can I say? I admit, I already feel lame because I know I give you a free bump, which you obviously appreciate, from what I read.

Hopefully other persons with more forum instruments at their disposal than myself will read attentively at how you managed this thread and maybe come to the same conclusion.

Oh well.
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After watching your topic since its inception, I came to the conclusion that it's still a troll topic. It's not a typical troll, it's a plain-sight bait, refreshed with periodic provocations to a big part of the player base and free bumps from the minority you "represent".

So what can I say? I admit, I already feel lame because I know I give you a free bump, which you obviously appreciate, from what I read.

Hopefully other persons with more forum instruments at their disposal than myself will read attentively at how you managed this thread and maybe come to the same conclusion.

Oh well.


The "free bump" part was a tool at my disposal. You see, i was warned against this player that he would not easily stop posting, so what i did was i ended his reason to post in one post, in the process foregoing any additional "bumps", and that's because i don't care about the bumps.

When you are dealing with trolls you have to beat them at their own game or they will never stop.

If you have not noticed the points i am making throughout this thread then i cannot help you.
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
Last edited by Crackmonster#7709 on Mar 13, 2013, 10:13:43 AM
+0.5 The game should stay challenging and complex. But some features, like damage numbers, gauntlet/sword cursor, extended loot timers on 6s, 5l, uniques, shared location map have nothing to do with "dimming down" the game, it is a matter of usability and should be implemented.
Last edited by Roxalon#0837 on Mar 13, 2013, 9:39:20 AM
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Crackmonster wrote:
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After watching your topic since its inception, I came to the conclusion that it's still a troll topic. It's not a typical troll, it's a plain-sight bait, refreshed with periodic provocations to a big part of the player base and free bumps from the minority you "represent".

So what can I say? I admit, I already feel lame because I know I give you a free bump, which you obviously appreciate, from what I read.

Hopefully other persons with more forum instruments at their disposal than myself will read attentively at how you managed this thread and maybe come to the same conclusion.

Oh well.


The "free bump" part was a tool at my disposal. You see, i was warned against this player that he would not easily stop posting, so what i did was i ended his reason to post in one post, in the process foregoing any additional "bumps", and that's because i don't care about the bumps.

When you are dealing with trolls you have to beat them at their own game or they will never stop.

If you have not noticed the points i am making throughout this thread then i cannot help you.

It's the way you choose to make those points. Also, trolling might be against forum rules, and I believe it might be expected from you to not respond in the same vein to trolling attempts.
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I am choosing to heed your advice on not posting further to troll attempts, so after this reply i will no longer reply to you trying to justify myself - after all, if i made another post after this to further answer you i'd be discussing how i am not a troll and etc, something completely worthless to spend posts on.

and also - I do not really care if you do not understand the method and misunderstand my intentions because you catch madness that was aimed at stopping trolls in their tracks - because as i have said before i am concerned with the future and not with being afraid to offend someone that doesn't understand me.

EDIT: In addition, anyone is free to post their thoughts on this topic, without me taking it personally, and who knows i may or may not comment here in my thread, but you can be sure i will comment when someone asks me why i wrote what i did, and i will not be afraid to speak what i have seen even if mortal weakness would rather have others neglect it, and thereby are offended by it because i speak as though i know.

Many forum goers read to misunderstand, and if there is something they don't understand at first it surely cannot be due to their own ignorance. Never.

My edge is sharpened for this confrontation, but believe it or not, underneath is all is a reasonable person - or at least i like to think so myself. You, like many others, must have read to misunderstand and see only the extreme when you behold my posts, yet i am afraid there is no way around this that will satisfy all without ending in the pool of "oh let me just try to land in the middle right here with this argument, and oh well whos this gonna hurt they can just add this np ppl will just use what they want and etc etc etc." - in the process undefining myself, so yes, you lick the blade, the blade of truth.
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
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Love how all the "hardcore gamers" turn out to be farming Ledge, Fellshrine and Docks because its easyer.
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Chimmy81 wrote:
Love how all the "hardcore gamers" turn out to be farming Ledge, Fellshrine and Docks because its easyer.

It's about efficiency. Smart people don't take unnecessary risks for the fun of it, they think long-term, with set goals mentality.
(No, I'm not hardcore. I don't even know what makes a hardcore player)
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zachatta wrote:

For people who enjoy a challenge this is the ONLY real game in the ARPG market. Please do not shift gears GGG.


I have had 1 legit death in HC, and that's only because i was farming areas in gear barley fit for act3 merc. (i guess u could say i was giving myself a challenge "1.7k hp 68 alch map")
Honestly, Fix the latency issues and this game would have very little challenge. IF synchronisation was fixed the first thing i might consider complaining about is lack of challenge, and the nerfing of bosses such as pietys lightning ball, But hiho as an Australian and with the current sync issues Every cluster of mobs can be a challenge if i so desire, all i need is Qsilver.


Ill give u a +1 for the OP's intentions. if he\she can admit this game like all other games isn't perfect and requires at leased fixes

Desync
clunky game play (animations)
the never ending balancing changes

im sure there are more but u get my point. Game is good, but has alot more potential.
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Ill give u a +1 for the OP's intentions. if he\she can admit this game like all other games isn't perfect and requires at leased fixes


I admit the game is not perfect, as nothing in life is, and there is always room to improve and fix something.
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.

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