Please remove the mystery boxes because it's Hazard Gaming

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Vanesya wrote:

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webas wrote:

If ggg made lootboxes would give never duplicates - that would be not hazard.

Right now it actually is hazard! :(

..also aka gambling addiction..

GGG why!

+1. The problem here is you can find duplicates. That make it hazard game, because you potentially could never find what you are looking for, even spending a lot. More, in this game finding a dupe is like finding nothing, AND SPENDING MONEY IN A SYSTEM THAT COULD GIVE YOU NOTHING IS CONSIDERED IN ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY HAZARD GAME. If there weren't dupes, you'd know that (before or later) spending money will grant your goodie.

I can caps too: YOU CAN BUY THE SAME ITEMS FOR POINTS YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET THEM OUT OF A LOOT BOX FFS

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xenogias wrote:

I'm pretty anti loot box. Honestly these boxes are the first I have ever purchased in any game ever because I like the looks of the combination stuff. I never really payed attention to them before but now knowing you can get duplicates with no way of turning them into currency at a slightly reduced rate I find them extremely shady. Either drop dupes in my opinion or give people way to turn things they do not want/dupes into points at a reduced rate. The one thing I do give them credit for is most of the items are going to cost a lot more than $3 when they go up for sale individually. So there is that.

"NOW KNOWING" like they don't post that you can get duplicates in the announcement post?!

Do you honestly think that these things would be 30 points each if you COULDN'T GET DUPLICATES?!?!

Well I could buy the armor sets for 2400 points total when they come out for sin and innocence combined, or i can get them out of loot boxes for 1140 points hur hur hur.... wtf would be the point of loot boxes?! They'd be 100 points each ffs

I Like Loot Boxes :)

if they didnt have potential for dupes it would be idiotic, they wouldnt exist.

I like literally everything in the new boxes, and everything in there is worth 60 pints, 120 points, 250 points etc by itself, so I could basically buy everything in the boxes at 30 points each guaranteed by just buying the same amount of boxes as there are items? Are you people even switching your brains on when u make these comments? So the boxes become hey were adding this stuff to the shop, have it at a crazy reduced price guaranteed now or wait and pay much more for it later? What are you even talking about.


I have about 28 perm characters in standard, I recently bought 3 bandana attachments to use on different ones. Dupes arnt useful to YOU, ok, thats you, not me, not everyone. I specifically want dupes of many things.


Banning mystery boxes... When you buy a pack of magic cards do you know what cards are inside? Do you know they are not cards you already have? Are the potential cards actually worth serious real money? Are you actually gambling with real money FOR real money? Yes. Are you getting an advantage in the actual game of magic potentially depending how lucky you are? Yes. Have magic card packs been banned? No.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

they do list the items, and the probability of getting them, and theyre all just cosmetic shiny things that have no impact in or out of the game.

they list the chances for the item tiers only (rare 20%, uncommon 35%, common 45%) however they do not state if there are any biases within those categories. ie. we have no idea whether there's an equal chance for Sin Sword Skins to drop compared to Sin Wings _if_ a rare item is selected.

until this information is clearly expressed (per-item), and they do something to deal with duplicates (as in let us recover some mtx value from duplicates we don't want) I'm no longer buying supporter packs.

Mystery Boxes as they currently are implemented are not "ethical" in any shape or form.

I dont really understand. How can kids spend money on a game like this? i would suppose they did have to ask their parrents?

What age are we talking about here?

cause if you mean 15+ i defently would say they can judge for themselves.

I dont understand people with no self control. I've always been opposite never tried any drugs despite enormous peer pressure at parties and stuff. I'm not judgmental though to each their own. But when money is involved I'm super tight and conservative. I wear literally $3 shirts I buy them in bulk. Never been into name brands and I went to costa mesa HS in California where kids are very rich. Again peer pressure had no effect on me to wear A&F and stuff. Oh well. Good luck to you.

I dont buy those stupid boxes either. I buy MTX I want outright.

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ualac wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

they do list the items, and the probability of getting them, and theyre all just cosmetic shiny things that have no impact in or out of the game.

they list the chances for the item tiers only (rare 20%, uncommon 35%, common 45%) however they do not state if there are any biases within those categories. ie. we have no idea whether there's an equal chance for Sin Sword Skins to drop compared to Sin Wings _if_ a rare item is selected.

until this information is clearly expressed (per-item), and they do something to deal with duplicates (as in let us recover some mtx value from duplicates we don't want) I'm no longer buying supporter packs.

Mystery Boxes as they currently are implemented are not "ethical" in any shape or form.

why would there be a weighting within the categories? the chances are as clearly stated as they need to be, theres absolutely no reason to presume any weighting exists within the tiers as them giving you the weighting by tier is basically saying there isnt. You dont need it spelled out for you, youre just being silly.

An advertisement for a shampoo that has a beautiful woman in a show is less ethical than GGGs loot boxes, but I bet you still buy bathroom products from those companies.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

An advertisement for a shampoo that has a beautiful woman in a show is less ethical than GGGs loot boxes, but I bet you still buy bathroom products from those companies.

but those companies aren't campaigning or attempting to be distinct by claiming they are ethical. GGG however have set out to do "ethical microtransactions" and stated as much, but Mystery Boxes expose the fact that this is no longer true. Like many other publishers they intend to set out to exploit their playerbase. Change these to be buy-what-you-want (and can directly afford) and this problem goes away.

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rootvik79 wrote:

Mystery boxes are dirty way to earn money. Tricking kids to buy points to spend on boxes with a low (or non existant) chance to get armour effects. In my country this is called Hazard Gaming and is illegal for kids.

Put the new sin and innocence sets as armour packs instead and stay classy.

i never bought any. Mybe because I'm adult and i don't care how character looks. And btw this is not the game for kids. 😉