Meanwhile Bisco is 18+ Ex

"
Completed 30 ChallengesLowBudget780 wrote:
No, I am not aware because I am not a statistician. I am just going off of what GGG has officially said and what is stated in the Wiki and regardless of that, 60-100 maps is not enough of a sample size to draw any sort of conclusion considering all of the rng involved with loot drops in this game. Feel free to enlighten me though as I am sure you are just frothing at the mouth waiting to show me up with your statistical prowess.


60 maps not enough? Depends. For Mirror drops, it certainly isn't. For Exalt drops, it isn't either. For Chaos drops? Good question. For Wisdom Scroll drops? It definitely is.

Now, for maps, I did the math but I am currently not 100% sure I did it correctly, I would have to re-check that (I am not that great at statistics either, though I had a few courses in statistics). However, the data Empyrian showed is pretty close to being significant on a 3-sigma-level (1 in a 1000 chance that this would occur by chance).
Un-gate content.
"
Completed 30 ChallengesLowBudget780 wrote:
"
Completed 15 ChallengesChar1983 wrote:
"
Completed 30 ChallengesLowBudget780 wrote:
Yeah but a couple streamers on youtube ran like 100 maps a piece and found more maps with it so obviously biscos effects drop rates. It's kind of like how I've played slot machines around 100 times in my life and won a bit over 5 grand so obviously the machine will pay me out 5 grand every 100 tries or so, that's the logic these people are using, lol well that and the fact people are trying to justify wasting 15ex an a biscos so they will cling to any napkin math theory that makes them feel better about themselves.


You are aware of the fact that statistics is a pretty exact science, right? And the underlying statistical distributions (binomial distributions, mostly) are pretty well understood and can be both calculated explicitly and estimated pretty well using Gaussian distributions.

So it is pretty clear whether the result is significant or not, the only question is at what significance level you are willing to reject the null hypothesis ('Bisco's does not influence map drops').



No, I am not aware because I am not a statistician. I am just going off of what GGG has officially said and what is stated in the Wiki and regardless of that, 60-100 maps is not enough of a sample size to draw any sort of conclusion considering all of the rng involved with loot drops in this game. Feel free to enlighten me though as I am sure you are just frothing at the mouth waiting to show me up with your statistical prowess.


GGG has never made an official statement on Bisco's.
And seeing as they have just moved this thread it looks like they will never give an official statement on Bisco's. It affects map drops, you're silly to think otherwise.
"
pannra wrote:
GGG has never made an official statement on Bisco's.


True.

I sent a message to support yesterday about this, because I would like to have an official statement. Maybe Bisco's is simply bugged, I cannot believe this behavior is intended. Also, their official statement for general character IIQ strongly implies that the same is true for Bisco's.

Have not gotten any reply from support yet.

Un-gate content.
Also, why the hell was this thread moved to Gameplay Help and Discussion, where no one will see it? I would not have found it again other than by chance (had it open while it was moved).
Un-gate content.
x
Last edited by LowBudget780 on Jan 18, 2018, 4:53:36 PM
Seriously, the mod that keeps moving these posts needs to chill. It was posted in the right forum
"
Completed 33 ChallengesSunL4D2 wrote:
http://poe.trade/search/okotitemakaseb

LUL
there was a time when there where like a dozen or more chase uniq's that sold for 50ex or more.Now there are very few worth 50ex.I also wish there where lots more chase uniq's.
That's how my league went a couple of weeks ago :

*drops weird unique amulet*
*identifies -> bisco*
*puts bisco in stash*
*goes check price on poe.trade*
*jaw falls on the floor*
*gets jaw back in place*
*inbetween bisco gets indexed, receives 872682765872365872345628 whisps in the minute*
*sells it 30mn later at 16ex*
*buys most of my final stuff*
*feels good*

I guess I'll never use this amulet as long as the selling price is so insane. And I don't believe enough in IIQ and IIR to rely on them anyway :)
"
Completed 40 ChallengesI_NO wrote:
"
Completed 23 ChallengesKalHirol wrote:
Okay there is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

1. Bisco is the most broken item in the game right now.
It acts as having about 40%+ quantity on your gear, and it all comes from a single item.

Check out cutedog_ and empyriangaming bisco tests, the results are very clear.
It is OP as f.

2.
Quantity affects currency drops.
It also affects everything else, but since you probably use a loot filter you will mainly notice it on currency drops.

3.
Biscos does not work like quantity does.
It does not show up on your profile, it is not included in the quantity calculation.
It is a unique effect.

4.
There is a ongoin debate that biscos increases map drops,
with many known players stating their experience.
It is most likely unintentional but according to many high level players biscos DOES boost map drops.
We dont know for sure yet.

The argument that quantity does not affect map drops is invalid, because biscos effect is a unique one and has nothing to do with the quantity calculation.
In that sense it is true that quantity does not affect map drops, but biscos might still affect map drops.



It DOES NOT AFFECT MAP DROPS STOP DOING THAT MY GOD.


Most probably, you both don't have access to POE source code.
Being able to say "I don't know." is infinitely more wise than arbitrary chosing a side.
Using caps won't save your soul either.
PLEASE QUOTE ME IF YOU ARE EXPECTING A REPLY
----------------------------------------------------------------
xhul filter : https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1787522
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info