Chris and his D3 Interview

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Phrazz wrote:

It's not about being "SSF-viable" or not. It's about the balance between drops, trade and effort. I would've hated an instant AH just as much as I would've hated not being able to trade. Two evils. Two edges. Far left and far right, like politics, while the middle ground is the best thing for most people.

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CelticHound wrote:

Would you, personally, play differently if there was an instant auction house (and no other changes to the current game)? If so, why? Why not just ignore it?

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Frankenberry wrote:

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If the transaction cost from trading goes close to 0 (which was the case in D3) it basically means you aren't killing stuff anymore to gain currency and loot (mainly to sell to others). You end up flipping instead.

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Rhykker talked briefly about an interview Chris gave on a D3 Podcast and Im doubting now that Chris knows his own game.
He said that trading is difficult and complicated by design and his reason was that when he played vanilla D3 he played the auction house more than the actual game and 99% of his upgrades came from there. That is a shit reason.
Guess what, Chris, its the same in PoE. You wanna make cash? You spend time with trade.
The only difference is that even people who dont have a shop still get almost all their upgrades from trading. So the reason he made trade a complete clusterfuck on PoE doesnt matter because what he was trying to prevent still happened. At this point you might as well make trade better, I doubt its gonna change what we already do. We trade for every item we need. Well except for the SSF guys but thats beside the point.

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SisterBlister wrote:

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Frankenberry wrote:

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If the transaction cost from trading goes close to 0 (which was the case in D3) it basically means you aren't killing stuff anymore to gain currency and loot (mainly to sell to others). You end up flipping instead.

I never understood that point. If there was an AH I could use any time I want for free (BTW: I'd prefer some cost associated with trade, just don't want it to be "hassle", as I'm playing a game here and want as little "hassle" instead of challenge as possible), I would quest and kill stuff until I hit that gear wall. Then I'd buy an item or two and repeat. Whenever I find something cool I don't need myself, I'd post it and thus get some extra currency on the sideline, *allowing me more time to slay monsters instead of trade*. And if I really feel the need for some super rare, crazy OP and expensive item, I'd grind the highest level monsters I can find to amass currency to buy it.

It's basically how I play these days, using poe.trade, except trading can be really annoying sometimes. Obviously, if you just flip and trade for a few days you can short-cut this whole affair and get your GG items immediately. But why play then? I'm sure I'm not the only one who wouldn't trade 24/7 just because it's less cumbersome...

Peace and pancakes,
SB

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Pyrollusion wrote:

Rhykker talked briefly about an interview Chris gave on a D3 Podcast and Im doubting now that Chris knows his own game.
He said that trading is difficult and complicated by design and his reason was that when he played vanilla D3 he played the auction house more than the actual game and 99% of his upgrades came from there. That is a shit reason.
Guess what, Chris, its the same in PoE. You wanna make cash? You spend time with trade.
The only difference is that even people who dont have a shop still get almost all their upgrades from trading. So the reason he made trade a complete clusterfuck on PoE doesnt matter because what he was trying to prevent still happened. At this point you might as well make trade better, I doubt its gonna change what we already do. We trade for every item we need. Well except for the SSF guys but thats beside the point.

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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Pyrollusion wrote:

Rhykker talked briefly about an interview Chris gave on a D3 Podcast and Im doubting now that Chris knows his own game.
He said that trading is difficult and complicated by design and his reason was that when he played vanilla D3 he played the auction house more than the actual game and 99% of his upgrades came from there. That is a shit reason.
Guess what, Chris, its the same in PoE. You wanna make cash? You spend time with trade.
The only difference is that even people who dont have a shop still get almost all their upgrades from trading. So the reason he made trade a complete clusterfuck on PoE doesnt matter because what he was trying to prevent still happened. At this point you might as well make trade better, I doubt its gonna change what we already do. We trade for every item we need. Well except for the SSF guys but thats beside the point.

Selling iterms for cash is violating the terms of agreement and is subject to account ban. Looks like you just surrendered your account to the hammer. Good luck.

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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Pyrollusion wrote:

Rhykker talked briefly about an interview Chris gave on a D3 Podcast and Im doubting now that Chris knows his own game.
He said that trading is difficult and complicated by design and his reason was that when he played vanilla D3 he played the auction house more than the actual game and 99% of his upgrades came from there. That is a shit reason.
Guess what, Chris, its the same in PoE. You wanna make cash? You spend time with trade.
The only difference is that even people who dont have a shop still get almost all their upgrades from trading. So the reason he made trade a complete clusterfuck on PoE doesnt matter because what he was trying to prevent still happened. At this point you might as well make trade better, I doubt its gonna change what we already do. We trade for every item we need. Well except for the SSF guys but thats beside the point.

Selling iterms for cash is violating the terms of agreement and is subject to account ban. Looks like you just surrendered your account to the hammer. Good luck.

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Destructodave wrote:

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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Pyrollusion wrote:

Rhykker talked briefly about an interview Chris gave on a D3 Podcast and Im doubting now that Chris knows his own game.
He said that trading is difficult and complicated by design and his reason was that when he played vanilla D3 he played the auction house more than the actual game and 99% of his upgrades came from there. That is a shit reason.
Guess what, Chris, its the same in PoE. You wanna make cash? You spend time with trade.
The only difference is that even people who dont have a shop still get almost all their upgrades from trading. So the reason he made trade a complete clusterfuck on PoE doesnt matter because what he was trying to prevent still happened. At this point you might as well make trade better, I doubt its gonna change what we already do. We trade for every item we need. Well except for the SSF guys but thats beside the point.

Selling iterms for cash is violating the terms of agreement and is subject to account ban. Looks like you just surrendered your account to the hammer. Good luck.

If only that were true we wouldn't have so much abuse going on in the trading market to begin with. There has been some drama here and there and known RMTer's who just keep on trucking. I mean why do you think people abuse PoE.Trade and amass so much currency? Just for kicks? Small percentage. A lot of them do it for RMT. A lot of people cash out every league. Play, sell when bored. This is why something like Warframe.Market can exist without much problem because abusing it for cash is not lucrative or worth it. However, the same thing in PoE is abused to the max because of real money implications behind it.

GGG lets a lot of people get away with a lot of shit they shouldn't. There was some juicy drama back around the forsaken masters release that was just icing on the cake for the kind of hypocrisy this game runs on.