Buff life.

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I_NO wrote:

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plodd wrote:

It's certainly not impossible to make a life build that can do all content.
It's also not impossible to make an es build that cant do all content.

I am not really sure exactly what balance you guys are looking for.

Do you want any build however bad to breeze through everything?
Or do you want no build however good to be able to clear everything?

If neither of the above then things are in a decent place atm.

The fuck is this dude LOL ES is just easier end of story it's not rocket science.

Yea es is easier. But read again and try and understand the point im making this time.

There is no other point or another discussion ES is just plain easier in every single possible way right now and much MUCH easier to do end game with.

I've done both especially life in fucking HC out of all things so whatever the fuck you're saying is just once more YOU'RE OBLIVIOUS to the situation of what the fuck is going on in both ES and life.

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I_NO wrote:

There is no other point or another discussion ES is just plain easier in every single possible way right now and much MUCH easier to do end game with.

I've done both especially life in fucking HC out of all things so whatever the fuck you're saying is just once more YOU'RE OBLIVIOUS to the situation of what the fuck is going on in both ES and life.

But so what if its easier.

If you want to faceroll go make your es build. Some people play life builds because its not so easy.
Do you get it yet?

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plodd wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

There is no other point or another discussion ES is just plain easier in every single possible way right now and much MUCH easier to do end game with.

I've done both especially life in fucking HC out of all things so whatever the fuck you're saying is just once more YOU'RE OBLIVIOUS to the situation of what the fuck is going on in both ES and life.

But so what if its easier.

If you want to faceroll go make your es build. Some people play life builds because its not so easy.
Do you get it yet?

That is easily one of the most horrible answers I've ever witnessed so lets NOT TOUCH LIFE BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT IT HARDER when the entire reddit and this fucking feedback is crying about it and like 0.5% of the majority out number in my ass is crying DUN BUFF IT BRO WE WANT IT HARD.

You want balance you don't leave it alone the fuck is this.

So what is it youre after ?

You want life to be buffed to where es is at the moment? (I mean in terms of survivability).
Or do you want es nerfed to where life is ?

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plodd wrote:

So what is it youre after ?

You want life to be buffed to where es is at the moment? (I mean in terms of survivability).
Or do you want es nerfed to where life is ?

Do you know that some people prefer middle grounds ? :O

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plodd wrote:

So what is it youre after ?

You want life to be buffed to where es is at the moment? (I mean in terms of survivability).
Or do you want es nerfed to where life is ?

As Fruz said, a minor buff to life and a minor nerf to ES to bridge the gap between them is needed.

I'm all for keeping the game hard, but you should focus on asking GGG to encourage end game grinding, and I mean keep us on the tier >15 fights when we reach post level 90 and we have great gear already - it's perfectly viable for ES to do so with moderate investment, fine, it requires life to have better skillplay, fine, but at least make all of us capable of testing ourselves versus the best encounters that the game has to offer, not separate us by requesting a @#%^&* buffer to survive the "one shots"...

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plodd wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

There is no other point or another discussion ES is just plain easier in every single possible way right now and much MUCH easier to do end game with.

I've done both especially life in fucking HC out of all things so whatever the fuck you're saying is just once more YOU'RE OBLIVIOUS to the situation of what the fuck is going on in both ES and life.

But so what if its easier.

If you want to faceroll go make your es build. Some people play life builds because its not so easy.
Do you get it yet?

What if I want to play certain build that requires me to use items with life rolls, but I don't want to struggle with one-shots? Do I go FoTM ES, or just play a life based build and struggle? :V

I'm not sure if it is how balance works. I mean, sure, GGG should shift balance from time to time, make some things more efficient from patch to patch so people don't get bored and try new things. But if you make one class of builds absolutely superior to the other, you can expect people won't be trying new things or staying in the game.
I see absolutely no reason for HP to be retarded version of ES.

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plodd wrote:

So what is it youre after ?

You want life to be buffed to where es is at the moment? (I mean in terms of survivability).
Or do you want es nerfed to where life is ?

What i want is that you can roll a t14 map + with added damage of an element (maybe 2) and crit strikes mod and not get one shot repeatedly. And also the option to play with flexibility not just huge amount of hp nodes + wearing safell's frame to survive. Atm its just a bunch of hard counters in ggg's end game which makes it not much of a game alot of the time.

There are so many balancing issues in the game, but imho the biggest problem is vaal pact. This keystone needs to be completely removed from the game. At the moment the whole game seems to be balanced around big Life/ES pools paired with the ability to instant leech. All these damage spikes that can occur in T15+ maps with e.g. extra damage are so absolutely crazy and can kill within in milliseconds.

As long as the game is balanced like this ES will be superior to life because it is a lot easier to stack it both on passive tree and gear.