Buff life.

If GGG atleast said something, it would be better -.-

It is no need to buff life.
The method that solve this problem is removing Ghost Reaver.

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Peterlerock wrote:

No, I'm only calling BS on "60-80% of the passives spent in defense".

Maybe you don't do it, but you also got no leech on your character and you're actually claiming a higher ground on this matter, that's laughable at best.

Your 5.8k life character at level 87 (lmao right there) with no leech is now how life builds should look like?

You will evaporate in higher maps in an instant. Especially if you're using Cleave.

So please, before you try to share your advises about what's tanky or not, get that character to some real content. Normal Atziri is not a "build checker". It's doable with 4k life, so what? It's a telegraphed fight which shouldn't be used as a "build checker".

I haven't seen you actually claim anything about Atziri being a "build checker" but outside of that you got nothing.
You are only lvl 87 which doesn't punish deaths "properly", not by a long shot. S

So of course you can pump DPS, because you'll clear shit faster and you don't really care about dying yet.

But again, that's not what an example of a good life build is. This is just you going against the mainstream thoughts trying to make yourself stood out as a better player. Key word is trying.

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...and in the meantime, I get to 6k life without belly and without 200% on the tree all the time.

And in the meantime your 7.5k life with no leech and no defenses is nothing compared to a 30c budget CI build with 10k+ ES, more DPS and infinitely better sustain through VP.

Well done I guess. Life is not doing as bad as every reasonable person is saying. You know better lmao

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Peterlerock wrote:

I'm not trying to defend my build here (though I enjoy it).
I just showed my shit equipment to point out that it's BS that you need Belly or some extraordinary skilltree to get to 6k life.

These life/ES discussions are just full of those BS statements.
Some people seem to assume CI get their 15k+ ES for free, not an "investment", neither in gear nor in passives. But for life, easy things like 5k/6k life are advocated as impossible tasks.

The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Yes, ES is a bit too strong. But it's not "twice as good" as life, even when it gets twice as much "life".
Fix it? Remove this stupid 20% ES ring mastercraft. Do something about VP/GR. Done.
For life? Grant a tiny bit more life/notable, like 2%. Done.
For melee? Get rid of volatile. Tune down some monster damage a bit.

Your build is a shit example of a proper life build. You would be better off if you didn't even start talking about it.
But what else can you give to support your anti-mainstream thoughts?


Life/ES discussions are as real as it gets despite those few hipsters claiming otherwise.


Main thing that I've already said about Path of Life Nodes is that it's boring af compared to an ES build. I won't repeat myself, you can read it up again.
Your build has also proved it. All your damage nodes are right there beside life nodes.
Which is happening with every decent+ life build. If you go out of your way and go grab some damage nodes that aren't close to the life nodes you are done. You will lose a ton of life.
Meanwhile, on my CI Trickster I went for Templar AoE nodes and the Duelist leech. And that was fun to do.


Nobody said it's impossible to reach 5-6k life. Not sure where you dug that from but that's a hilarious argument and if you really found some noobs that claim that and you use that as your argument... please...
It's easy to get over 5k life, but 5k life is trash. It's not viable at all. And it comes with about the same investment as a 9k+ ES build. THAT is the issue.


The "truth" is absolutely not in the middle. ES shits on life easily.
It's clear as a day and people know it, despite what the few forum hipsters are claiming.


I have only played two CI builds since OB (since I prefer life over ES), one of them was last league. The difference is huge.
Unlike you, I'm not sugarcoating the situation. I would love life to be on par but recently it's been a disaster. The gap is enormous.

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tinko92 wrote:

Maybe you don't do it, but you also got no leech on your character and you're actually claiming a higher ground on this matter, that's laughable at best.
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Nobody said it's impossible to reach 5-6k life. Not sure where you dug that from but that's a hilarious argument and if you really found some noobs that claim that and you use that as your argument... please...

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Peterlerock wrote:

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aleksandor wrote:

One weakness I note is that your Life leech is pretty small however, only .33% from your sword that I can see.

I also have an Atziri flask.
But yeah, like I said, not fully optimized yet.

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Peterlerock wrote:

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And I'm still at only 5.8k life with Belly and I have to be very careful at how I play.

...and in the meantime, I get to 6k life without belly and without 200% on the tree all the time.

So Atziri's leech and some 0.33% phys leech is not "no leech" according to the PoE expert lmao

Holy crap, what a guy lmao, the second quote is even more pointless... Takes skill to constantly provide trash arguments. That's where you are an expert, and not where you think you are :)

Only short posts for the jester, just to show how laughable those posts are.

No actually, both of your statements were blatantly wrong here, I was just pointing it out.
The tone that you are taking speaks for itself anyway.

And it'z amazing, with those 2 other quotes, that makes a total a 4 sentences and you managed to miss/fail to understand one it seems ....

Embarrassing... just embarrassing what people would do for some attention and to show that they're different than anyone else lmao

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tinko92 wrote:

Embarrassing... just embarrassing what people would do for some attention and to show that they're different than anyone else lmao

indeed

It's certainly not impossible to make a life build that can do all content.
It's also not impossible to make an es build that cant do all content.

I am not really sure exactly what balance you guys are looking for.

Do you want any build however bad to breeze through everything?
Or do you want no build however good to be able to clear everything?

If neither of the above then things are in a decent place atm.

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plodd wrote:

It's certainly not impossible to make a life build that can do all content.
It's also not impossible to make an es build that cant do all content.

I am not really sure exactly what balance you guys are looking for.

Do you want any build however bad to breeze through everything?
Or do you want no build however good to be able to clear everything?

If neither of the above then things are in a decent place atm.

The fuck is this dude LOL ES is just easier end of story it's not rocket science. Fucking struggling in HC to break 7k hp and that's with a fucking belly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Yeqaa0134

I don't like this streamer in fact I think hes fucking terrible but in this video of his hes correct in every single way.

It's not a hard concept there I don't know why you're like I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU GUYS WANTTTTTTTT AHHHHH cmon it's like you're fucking oblivious to the situation.