Endgame Gear Impossible to Get or Just an Illusion?

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deathflower wrote:

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MangoXL wrote:

The real problem here is, that "the grass is always greener on the other side"

Endgamegear is not the holy grale. The need for this is completely artificial. If you want it, work harder and or be smarter.

You can find decent gears with grinding, sure. But if you want all 6 modifiers to all line properly with T1 stat, it is improbable. You can't grind for these gears, the odds of finding them is astronomically low, so the better solution is actually you are gonna trade for them. Somehow this remind me of D3 auction house.

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ZeroHate wrote:

I would have thought the difference is trading in POE is much more time consuming and clunky, since you can not sit filtering through an AH system and simply flipping over items with ease. It is much less desirable to bother flipping items in POE.

But by the sound of it you have a lot of experience doing it in both games.

A majority of my items are also still traded for, but it was not my point, and they are rarely necessary to tackle end game content; only necessary to tackle 80+ maps with dodgy mods.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

what you are essentially saying is that the best item you find as an individual is not as good as the best item found by 200,000 people combined. As long as you can trade with more than 1 other person the odds are the 2 or more people you are trading with are more likely to find what you want than you are, because there is 2 or more of them.

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Deadpeng wrote:

You should be glad that nobody has spit at you so far in this thread.

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Hodari wrote:

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BlackStarDark wrote:

TL/DR: Prices are too damn high, GGG should do something or not ?

The price of the best items will always be "too damn high" for 99.999% of players. It has to be. They're meant to be something that even most dedicated players will spend a long time working towards, so they're extremely rare. The demand for them VASTLY exceeds the supply. So the price will rise until only the absolute richest players can afford them.

The real question is whether or not the average player can obtain items which are "good enough" within a reasonable amount of time. And that depends greatly on what you consider "good enough".

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Chris wrote:

All rare and super-rare Unique items now drop four times as often as they previously did. Yes, this means that four times as many Mjölners or Shavronne's Wrappings will now drop.

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BlackStarDark wrote:

It's like saying that you're gonna buy a car that can go as fast as 120mph, which is worth let's say 12k bucks, and there's a car that has a slightly better engine and goes to 140mph, and it's worth 120k bucks, don't you see the nonsense?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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BlackStarDark wrote:

It's like saying that you're gonna buy a car that can go as fast as 120mph, which is worth let's say 12k bucks, and there's a car that has a slightly better engine and goes to 140mph, and it's worth 120k bucks, don't you see the nonsense?

but thats pretty much exactly how that market works though lol. That situation actually exists in the car market.


You can buy a second hand mirrored copy of a loath bane for what? The price of 1 mirror, dunno what that is right now, lets say 300ex. You can buy loath bane itself, the original, the only difference is that you can change the socket colours, last time I looked at AXNs shop he had it listed for 10 mirrors, thats 3000ex... 2700ex more to be able to change the colours...

Thats how markets work, its not nonsense. If something is 1% better then its worth more, if something is literally the best possible thing, even if only by 1% then it will command the very maximum any individual is willing to pay for it, which could be twice what anyone is willing to pay for second best, even if second best is 99% the same.

An item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If you see items listed for 300ex, and people are buying them for 300ex, then thats what they are worth, nonsense would be having them on sale for far less. The most expensive item in this game is Atziris Mirror Golden Buckler. Its a unique item that you can buy on PoE trade for a couple of alterations probably, when I find them I vendor them, theyre absolutely useless. So why is that the most expensive item in the game? Because the ones that are that expensive are alternate art versions that were a race reward a long time ago, hardly any of them were handed out, they are ridiculously rare and simply beautiful, absolutely useless but an exquisite collectors item.

items in this game are not like a super market, shelves stacked with factory made, mass produced goods that are made to fit a given price bracket for an intended market. Its like an antiques fair, trinkets, oddities, rarities, 1 offs, out of prints, the flawed, the strange, the irreplaceable, and prices work just like prices in that sort of situation. Why is this useless, ugly little bowl worth £50,000? Because its a 6,000 year old Chinese antique and only a handful of them exist, people are willing to pay 50k for it so thats what its worth.


If anything is nonsense its that an item that would cost 3000 exalts to craft can be bought for 300.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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BlackStarDark wrote:

It's like saying that you're gonna buy a car that can go as fast as 120mph, which is worth let's say 12k bucks, and there's a car that has a slightly better engine and goes to 140mph, and it's worth 120k bucks, don't you see the nonsense?

but thats pretty much exactly how that market works though lol. That situation actually exists in the car market.


You can buy a second hand mirrored copy of a loath bane for what? The price of 1 mirror, dunno what that is right now, lets say 300ex. You can buy loath bane itself, the original, the only difference is that you can change the socket colours, last time I looked at AXNs shop he had it listed for 10 mirrors, thats 3000ex... 2700ex more to be able to change the colours...

Thats how markets work, its not nonsense. If something is 1% better then its worth more, if something is literally the best possible thing, even if only by 1% then it will command the very maximum any individual is willing to pay for it, which could be twice what anyone is willing to pay for second best, even if second best is 99% the same.

An item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If you see items listed for 300ex, and people are buying them for 300ex, then thats what they are worth, nonsense would be having them on sale for far less. The most expensive item in this game is Atziris Mirror Golden Buckler. Its a unique item that you can buy on PoE trade for a couple of alterations probably, when I find them I vendor them, theyre absolutely useless. So why is that the most expensive item in the game? Because the ones that are that expensive are alternate art versions that were a race reward a long time ago, hardly any of them were handed out, they are ridiculously rare and simply beautiful, absolutely useless but an exquisite collectors item.

items in this game are not like a super market, shelves stacked with factory made, mass produced goods that are made to fit a given price bracket for an intended market. Its like an antiques fair, trinkets, oddities, rarities, 1 offs, out of prints, the flawed, the strange, the irreplaceable, and prices work just like prices in that sort of situation. Why is this useless, ugly little bowl worth £50,000? Because its a 6,000 year old Chinese antique and only a handful of them exist, people are willing to pay 50k for it so thats what its worth.


If anything is nonsense its that an item that would cost 3000 exalts to craft can be bought for 300.