4 offcolor sockets on gloves? IMPOSSIBLE

4 offcolor on gloves is easy. The lower the stat requirement of a item, the less the sockets are aligneted with that color.

Just use the Vorice Calculator:

Those (not too good gloves) have 97 int

-> Best way to get RRRR is to use the 2R craft.

Avarage Cost: 1960 chromes with a pretty small standart deviation of 60.

If you really need 4 offcolour items always do it on gloves.

Getting 4 off on a top tier helmet would prefer 3R craft and would cost 3300 chromes on avarage.


In the end just use the dammed Vorici calculator.
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Seelenverheizer wrote:
4 offcolor on gloves is easy. The lower the stat requirement of a item, the less the sockets are aligneted with that color.

Just use the Vorice Calculator:

Those (not too good gloves) have 97 int

-> Best way to get RRRR is to use the 2R craft.

Avarage Cost: 1960 chromes with a pretty small standart deviation of 60.

If you really need 4 offcolour items always do it on gloves.

Getting 4 off on a top tier helmet would prefer 3R craft and would cost 3300 chromes on avarage.


In the end just use the dammed Vorici calculator.


1960 Chroms ONLY!!!!! Amazing !!
Dream with me !
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clan_iraq wrote:
And its sheer nonsense to dismiss the shortcomings of a game when you have the opportunity to fix them.

That there are restrictions on which sockets can be coloured how is not a 'shortcoming', but just a basic mechanic of the game.

Comparing to lockstep or the filters is flawed. It is intended that it should be difficult to off-colour equipment, and the costs of doing so are set for that reason. It was never intended that players should desync, nor intended that item clutter should be prevent people from seeing what was going on.

Lockstep was clearly a correction for a problem that most/all near-realtime online games face, and the loot filter was a simple QoL improvement, but not a change of game mechanics (the loot is still dropping).
The std dev in that calculator is given as attempts, not cost, it tries to make a point of saying that. In the RRRR for a 97 int glove example, 5% of the time it will take 6000+ chromes instead of the 2000 average.
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Cyzax wrote:

That there are restrictions on which sockets can be coloured how is not a 'shortcoming', but just a basic mechanic of the game.

It is intended that it should be difficult to off-colour equipment, and the costs of doing so are set for that reason.


It was intended that socketing an item should be totally unreliable and maybe take 5000 jewelers to 6S? It was intended that you could burn 5000 fusings to no avail? It was intended to be a highly unreliable rng cost in vast sums of currency?

Tell me, if this was the intention, why was vorici master crafting added to give players the ability to hedge against RNG for a premium? Why was the option to guarantee a 6S or 6L added if the intention was to gate such functionality behind prohibitive and spastic RNG?

I can tell you why no such analogue in chromes was added: because the vast permutations would never fit in the templates they used. I can also tell you ways they could have cleverly worked around this. The problem is, you mistake the intention
I've found the best way to get Off colors is to get 3/4 and vaal.

It's painstaking...but magic does happen!

Last edited by Prizy#1622 on Aug 5, 2015, 11:51:25 AM
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clan_iraq wrote:
Tell me, if this was the intention, why was vorici master crafting added to give players the ability to hedge against RNG for a premium? Why was the option to guarantee a 6S or 6L added if the intention was to gate such functionality behind prohibitive and spastic RNG?

Because they chose to change that mechanic. Since they did that, but didn't change the colouring of sockets further than they did, this is how it is intended to be.

Just because they change one mechanic in the game is not a relevant argument that other mechanics should be changed as well. Apart from these two both being related to sockets, they're completely different mechanics and thus not comparable.

Besides, you can make all the 4R/4G/4B gloves you want, so the mechanic is already there! Players can get a 4R glove using just a handful of chroms...
Last edited by Cyzax#3287 on Aug 5, 2015, 11:52:12 AM
The benches already give the option to significantly lower the amount of chromes you need if you need off-colour sockets.

I think it is fine. If your build absolutely requires, for some reason, 4 off coulours in gloves, well, you know what you are in for. It just makes it an expensive build, the same way requiring a Shavs makes your build an expensive build. Same if your build requires an Enlighten level 4.

In case of the OP, a solution was already suggested.
Remove Horticrafting station storage limit.
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Cyzax wrote:
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clan_iraq wrote:
Tell me, if this was the intention, why was vorici master crafting added to give players the ability to hedge against RNG for a premium? Why was the option to guarantee a 6S or 6L added if the intention was to gate such functionality behind prohibitive and spastic RNG?

Because they chose to change that mechanic. Since they did that, but didn't change the colouring of sockets further than they did, this is how it is intended to be.

Just because they change one mechanic in the game is not a relevant argument that other mechanics should be changed as well. Apart from these two both being related to sockets, they're completely different mechanics and thus not comparable.

Besides, you can make all the 4R/4G/4B gloves you want, so the mechanic is already there! Players can get a 4R glove using just a handful of chroms...


What would it take for you to acknowledge GGG's efforts to let players work around the offputting RNG of this game with guaranteed results for a premium? What if they released a major content expansion with this central goal in mind and applied it to every facet of the game and made it into an integral gameplay mechanic, letting players hedge against rng not just on sockets but on all items, maps, etc?

One occurrance is an anomaly. Two is a pattern. Three is a trend. Making an entire expansion block of it is beating you over the head senseless with it and make it dance in front of you wearing nothing but the stay puft man's hat. And you dont see it yet?
How would you practically do this?

1b vorici is 4 chromes
2b vorici is 25 chromes
3b vorici is 285 chroms IIRC
4b vorici would be 2500 chromes? You still would not be guaranteed to get your desired result.
4b2g vorici would then require something line 50.000 chromes? Not sure they even fit in your inventory, probably not. And it would be a very cheap price if the item you are coloring is a STR-based item.
Remove Horticrafting station storage limit.

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