checked TOS for scamming

http://www.pcgamer.com/witch-destroy-dungeons-with-path-of-exiles-new-playable-class/

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Chris wrote:

Path of Exile has a dark aesthetic. The continent of Wraeclast is a very hostile environment, where the player fears not only the monsters, but also other players and even the environment itself.

In Wraeclast, I think you better start watching your back



EDIT: Relinked a better source, its a quote of what Chris said, not a post.

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Metronomy wrote:

http://www.pcgamer.com/witch-destroy-dungeons-with-path-of-exiles-new-playable-class/

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Chris wrote:

Path of Exile has a dark aesthetic. The continent of Wraeclast is a very hostile environment, where the player fears not only the monsters, but also other players and even the environment itself.

In Wraeclast, I think you better start watching your back



EDIT: Relinked a better source, its a quote of what Chris said, not a post.

^ This. Be careful, there are people who WILL try to cheat you. No matter how far you will go with your "its never victims fault" thing. It might not be victims fault, be you will be the one who will get scammed. While I think some people deserve a little bit of punishment for their silly/evil deeds, I wouldn't go to extremes.

I recall one time when I was crossing the street with friend of mine, and we had a green light to walk. She just walked right in, without looking around, if something is coming her way. I told her that she should, and she replied that "it is her right to walk now, if someone hits her, it will be their fault". I replied "and you'll have 2 tons of metal in your ass".
So yeah, watch out.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

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Iluvatar_gr wrote:

Heh 20 pages arguing about obvious things:P
People that scam in a game because there are no consequences would scam in real life if they were allowed to freely do so.
It is a matter of morals and cannot be separated between games and reality.
Thieves would be thieves and they would say the exact same excuses to defend themselves in real life too.
It IS kind of sad to see so many people defending scamming though. Says a lot about people today

I don't believe this. I've played thieves in RPGs. I've played Nazis in war games. Hell... I've played evil alien insects in Starcraft. Doesn't mean I adopt these choices in real life. You all confuse in life actions and beliefs with actions in game because you're have no imagination, I guess. This is a game. Actions within it are fair, so long as they don't break the rules. There is no rule against lying to people to get them to give you stuff. Repeatedly.

If your Nazi game gave you the opportunity to gas and incinerate an ethnic group of people including women and children, not just soldiers, would you play it?

Probably not... doesn't sound fun.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I don't believe this. I've played thieves in RPGs. I've played Nazis in war games. Hell... I've played evil alien insects in Starcraft. Doesn't mean I adopt these choices in real life.

If you don't see a difference between human interactions over the internet (mail, facebook, chat, game chat, in game chat, IP phone or whatever) and interaction with pixels in a video game, you have serious issues. Seriously.

But, maybe I'm a freak, that believes in morality and politeness when it comes to interacting with other human beings.

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Metronomy wrote:

http://www.pcgamer.com/witch-destroy-dungeons-with-path-of-exiles-new-playable-class/

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Chris wrote:

Path of Exile has a dark aesthetic. The continent of Wraeclast is a very hostile environment, where the player fears not only the monsters, but also other players and even the environment itself.

In Wraeclast, I think you better start watching your back



EDIT: Relinked a better source, its a quote of what Chris said, not a post.

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DirkAustin wrote:

Lol, again this whole GGG encouraging it crap. Just give it a rest already. Point me to one single post from GGG that says, "please scam gullible people out of their pixel items they found in our game that is completely free to play".

This can be read as an encouragement. If not, it IS a statement saying: We will not do anything. Go right ahead. Scam!

IF that quote had anything to do with scamming. If not, the quote has nothing to do in this thread.

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phrazz wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I don't believe this. I've played thieves in RPGs. I've played Nazis in war games. Hell... I've played evil alien insects in Starcraft. Doesn't mean I adopt these choices in real life.

If you don't see a difference between human interactions over the internet (mail, facebook, chat, game chat, in game chat, IP phone or whatever) and interaction with pixels in a video game, you have serious issues. Seriously.

But, maybe I'm a freak, that believes in morality and politeness when it comes to interacting with other human beings.

I was playing with real human beings in all my examples. People knew we were playing a game though... something that doesn't seem to be the case here.

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Godhead_IV wrote:

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DalaiLama wrote:

Lance Armstrong got away with deceiving others for awhile too, but neither one is acceptable.


There is a valid solution to prevent much of this "scamming" , but thr PoE community isn't strong enough to implement, and GGG couldn't do it themselves. It is just a game, but those players who are virtual jackasses tend to be much the same in real life. Some of the younger ones that are just selfish and immature may grow out of it. At one point in all of our lives, the only person that mattered to us was ourselves.

Might I ask why not? Moral aside, is there any reason to not do it when rules allow it?

Ethics aside, it lowers the overall yield of a game. The best profits are not from making a killing on a few transactions but from a modest profit on a lot of transactions. It's a tedious process to be sure, but when people feel they got a good deal, they tend to trade more often. and that rising tide lifts all boats.

Conversely, when people feel that they got shafted, they tend to not trade as much and potentially not play as much, since the bad transaction sucked some of the fun out of the game.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I was playing with real human beings in all my examples. People knew we were playing a game though... something that doesn't seem to be the case here.

When I trade, I don't take the role of a Shadow or a Witch. I take the role as my self, being my self - interacting with other human beings.

But I guess everyone else are also being them selves, ergo: a lot of people are scamming.