checked TOS for scamming

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DirkAustin wrote:

But people are supposed to kill monsters and enjoy that part of the game instead of giving shits what happens to their pixels. Games are a distraction of real life, theyre not supposed to replace real life.

My response was along the lines of why it might matter in game, since players like to have more stuff. Friendlier cooperation and healthy fair competition tends to yield far more stuff, which can make the distraction from R/L easier to pursue.

The pixel aspect doesn't really apply, as in R/L scientifically speaking, life is just our perception of local random vacuum fluctuations. There are a fair number of scientists that question whether time even exists.

I wish they would tell Zana and Haku.

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phrazz wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I was playing with real human beings in all my examples. People knew we were playing a game though... something that doesn't seem to be the case here.

When I trade, I don't take the role of a Shadow or a Witch. I take the role as my self, being my self - interacting with other human beings.

But I guess everyone else are also being them selves, ergo: a lot of people are scamming.

Exactly. That's the heart of this problem. Some people don't realize that they're playing a game.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Some people don't realize that they're playing a game.

Some people can't see the difference between human interactions about a game, and playing a game. Are you playing a game when you are writing in these forums?

How exactly are people being scammed?! lol

When you go to buy something or sell something wait for theirs to turn green, then turn yours green if your that worried about being cheated..

If your handing an item for someone to alter, well idk what to tell you there cause your openly putting yourself out there, putting all your trust into that individual to be honest, and not just keeping it! Only thing you could do is refuse to trade unless collateral was put up, if they refuse you could take that as a warning, because if they are unwilling to put up something of equal value as a token of trust then they probably aren't worth trading with to begin with..

I really don't know of any other scams that could be going on, maybe i'm just uneducated on them?! The second one could just be avoided all together, your masters surely are level 8 by now right?! lol...I mean they been out for how long now?!

People are dishonest, in IRL you can be there for a trade...in a game people know you won't ever see them face to face so they do what they want..


This whole topic reminds me of this stand-up routine about stupid people and big dick pills by joe rogan! Who are we really saving is the punch line?!!! lol

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DirkAustin wrote:

Um, its a game, in which we FIND the items, its not like real life where we WORK for whatever we are being scammed out of which is usually money. So taking it too serious isnt the way to go here. Sure its wrong to trick people but its also wrong if someone walks into such a scam with open arms.

Let me ask you this, if you really want to use real life events as examples: I ask you to give me your wallet, will you do that? If the answer is no, and i hope it is because then youre smart you just answered yourself whether this was avoidable by the OP rather than there being something GGG or anyone else could or should do.

And nope, i really dont know what that technique is supposed to be, or i wouldnt have asked. :)

Would you steal his wallet if he did? My opinion right now is that most of the pro-scam commenters here would steal the wallet if they knew they'd get away with it.

No but that wasnt the point, someone with bad intentions finds someone whos is too trusting and too naive and easily tricked. Thats what it is about. This isnt about grabbing the purse from someones shoulders and running away, this is about someone being gullible enough to give someone else their purse and seeing them run and crying foul even though its their fault theyre so naive.

But its all pointless arguing in here anyways because its not about real money. The damn items drop again or you spend a few orbs here and there and buy it with pixel money. All you lose is time, not real money and certainly nothing of any real value.

A random person you met on the street has asked you for a favour, never having exchanged names etc. You willingly accept:
you: "Hey, give me your wallet while I go and buy you the Happy meal you wanted"
him: "Sure, here"
What option would you choose?
1. Take his wallet never to return. The idiot deserves to be scammed.
2. Buy him the Happy meal and hand back his wallet

I just want to know if you or any other pro-scam argumenter here would use the same logic in a similarly ridiculous real life situation.

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phrazz wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Some people don't realize that they're playing a game.

Some people can't see the difference between human interactions about a game, and playing a game. Are you playing a game when you are writing in these forums?

I think you're sincere when you ask this, but it really shows that you don't know what a game is well enough for us to continue this discussion. You need to learn the difference between what is a game and what is not a game sometime as a child. You haven't.

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DirkAustin wrote:

No one is pro scam, dont you get it? I cant help you if you dont want to help yourself in understanding the difference.

LoL

Then please explain what:

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Godhead_IV wrote:

That is blunt action, not intelligence. Make the kids give you their lunch money by their own will, make the person with Downs do it under their on will.

If they do it without being forced to, it's their fault for they could have simply not do it.
They done it by their own action, and you can't complain about something you have done by yourself without sounding stupid, regardless if you were tricked into it or not.

Is other than arguing pro Scam.