checked TOS for scamming

The best thing to do on the internet is expect the worse from people because the internet is where the worst people spend most of their time. Look at everyone here endorsing shitty behavior and blaming the victims of said behavior. This is all internet communities have to offer and expecting more is what "scammers" want you to do.

Yep... the term "scam" has lost it's meaning due to overuse.

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FadeXF wrote:

What I certainly dislike about GGG is that they are, in fact, not only are they endorsing the scamming, but they actively PROTECT the scammers too in not allowing us to even speak about it. We can't even have a healthy community to even air our grievances and let ourselves decide.

Nothing in this quote is actually true. What they endorse is protecting the innocent, which unfortunately creates a nice veil for the guilty. If there was a way to identify these individuals that could not be easily exploited (and don't fool yourself, what many advocate as guilt on this forum is easily manufactured as a frame job), and then they did not take action -- THEN it could be viewed as GGG endorsing the activity.

GGG support has actually come into some of these scam threads and asked for details to be emailed or PM'd to support so they can further investigate.

If you don't believe me on the whole 'frame up' of cheating, I could probably make several people on here look like a huge RMT'er within a week without even breaking a sweat using the GD standard for guilt.

Either way, your quote is false on most every level of interpretation by a reasonable person.

EDIT: The can't have a healthy community part I call false because of the 'healthy' part of the statement. GD is not healthy :)

Read each of those and you'll see that it's not a scam. No trick is involved. Nothing but a promise not kept. It's not a swindle. Not a scam. It's backing out on a promise.

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yungwhiz wrote:

Look at everyone here endorsing shitty behavior and blaming the victims of said behavior.

I'm not endorsing the bad behavior, I'm saying the 'victim' is as much at fault for letting himself get scammed. Buyer beware. Stop being a moron and crying 'scam' when someone outwits you.

You're either a sheep or a shepherd, plain and simple.

I've played in games were the Mods actively persecute scammers. All that happens is that scammers move to a new level and use the Mods themselves as tools to scam. The trap innocent players into trouble based on how the Mods react. It just changes their game... it doesn't eliminate them. If you're worried about scammers and cheaters, play strictly solo.

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FadeXF wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Read each of those and you'll see that it's not a scam. No trick is involved. Nothing but a promise not kept. It's not a swindle. Not a scam. It's backing out on a promise.

Shags - when I offer payment for a service and you don't provide said service that is the very first definition right there on the page:

"A fraudulent business scheme"

It is a business transaction - I paid you - you didn't provide the services you sold me.

Cut and dry, dude.

We're talking about different things. I'm talking about a guy who gave his items to another player to use and then the other player didn't use them as was expected. Not a "business scheme".

We pretend that it was a business transaction so much that people like you come to believe it. It's a game. People play it differently according to different rules.

Comparing it to real life is silly. It's not. In real life we have laws and courts and police. In this game we don't. That's a big enough difference to make any comparison of morals pointless.

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RagnarokChu wrote:

Nobody is going to court unless they were scammed for multi mirror level gear in which it would be over 500 dollars.

so so much is a mirror in real money?
who can i ask for that and why isnt he banned for real money trading yet?

Claiming loss of virtual goods in court?
nah