Why Atziri's Acuity is actually balanced! (For those who don't know game balancing)

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RagnarokChu wrote:

People getting richer in a fictional game isn't a "game balance issue", it has nothing to do with the BALANCE of the game. RMT is illegal and a massive issue to begin with, saying they can't make balance changes to the game because it effects illegal RMT is retarded. I ignored the point because people wealth in the standard leagues they do not balance around, on top of that rich's people wealth isn't something you balance around.

No most people are not capable of saving up to 60 exalts, Most people struggle to have 5 exalts.

Game balance isn't about how other people have an easier time, it's about the game becoming better. Atziri Acuity does absolutely nothing to the game while all of the gem buffs + skill tree changes and so on literally benefits everyone.

I'd probably differ a bit with that notion of game balance, but I agree with all of the important stuff in this post. I also wouldn't bother responding to pengant anymore since it clearly doesn't do any good. XD
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SayyadinaAtreides wrote:
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giully wrote:
Please dont gimme that bs. Acuity was 100% unnecessary and only there to promote uber atziri which otherwise drops very mediocre items compared to the challenge that it certainly is for most players.

I'm not trying to defend the initial introduction of the item. I believed at the time (and still do) that Atziri's Acuity is an unnecessarily powerful item to introduce into the game. The question now becomes "how is this best dealt with?"--and the simple "make it less powerful" that would have sufficed when the gloves were introduced has too many negative repercussions at the moment.

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giully wrote:
Imo acuity should have been either leech for both hp and es or simply "crits cant reflect". The first option would actually open up new possibilities for hybrid builds which are currently only viable with aegis.

It's worth noting that all of the passive tree changes and bench crafting via Masters make this no longer the case. I personally feel that life/ES hybrid builds have been viable before now, too, but they were certainly incredibly finicky to build and required extremely specific gear.

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giully wrote:
The nerf of VP (even ggg's balancing team could spot that issue) and then the addition of an even better mechanic (instant mana leech) with 0 drawback on a very strong item (700 armour and 80 int is huge) is like taking a big steamy pile of a dump on the overall balance of the game. Power creep like that is simply unnecessary but it seems GGG doesnt care about that anymore.

And this comes back to my original point: the "overall balance of the game" has a trivial connection to the fate of Acuity when it was a concern for at most 0.1% of players (considering that GGG's said only ~1% of players ever even make it to 66 maps). Making it more rare only makes this more true.


1) They reverted bad decisions before why not now? And NO scarcity doesnt balance jackshit.

2) They require aegis and nothing else as there is NOT a single mechanic other than aegis that allows you to leech back both pools in 99% of the game.

3) So I have to suck it up and deal with the fact that people who have bad judgment rule the balance of the game? There is a reason competitive games are balanced for the 1%.
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SayyadinaAtreides wrote:
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RagnarokChu wrote:

People getting richer in a fictional game isn't a "game balance issue", it has nothing to do with the BALANCE of the game. RMT is illegal and a massive issue to begin with, saying they can't make balance changes to the game because it effects illegal RMT is retarded. I ignored the point because people wealth in the standard leagues they do not balance around, on top of that rich's people wealth isn't something you balance around.

No most people are not capable of saving up to 60 exalts, Most people struggle to have 5 exalts.

Game balance isn't about how other people have an easier time, it's about the game becoming better. Atziri Acuity does absolutely nothing to the game while all of the gem buffs + skill tree changes and so on literally benefits everyone.

I'd probably differ a bit with that notion of game balance, but I agree with all of the important stuff in this post. I also wouldn't bother responding to pengant anymore since it clearly doesn't do any good. XD


Yeah because i'm talking sense and you are talking rubbish. I've offered a solution to solve all the issues and no one has paid any attention to that at all, pretty standard for what i've come to expect.
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StormHunter wrote:
Bloodseeker is a trash vendor uniqe


rofl, how many trash vendor unique allows you to kill uber atziri ?

If you don't know, refrain from commenting.
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Last edited by Malone#6946 on Aug 19, 2014, 6:16:52 PM
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Malone wrote:
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StormHunter wrote:
Bloodseeker is a trash vendor uniqe


rofl, how many trash vendor unique allows you to kill uber atziri ?

If you don't know, refrain from commenting.


Please refer to

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/982394

Exalton killed uber atziri with low-life spectral if that's what you're thinking.
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I have a hard time grasping the notion of the OP, to be honest.

Lets say for the arguments sake, that an item is overpowered. How does availability change the fact that the item is overpowered?

The difference here is that only a select few get to be overpowered, while the majority isnt. That still doesnt change the fact, does it?

I dont mind either way, i dont care about those gloves or if they are in the game, but that argument is beyond silly. Making an item rare, does not change its stats, never will.
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Then every item that has ever been made legacy is balanced. 1000 HP Kaoms was scarce after all.


Yup.
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Last edited by GodKas#2489 on Aug 19, 2014, 6:28:44 PM
I don't think a particular group of people will be happy unless these gloves are all gone from the game. LOL

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