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Legatus1982 wrote:

No, but then the facts support my case already, so it isn't needed.


Do they? One fun fact for example is that you can easily farm 1 ex per hour with an MF char when farming Dominus (and even more if you run in a dedicated group with runners and a culler). Now tell me how you can't farm any high ticket unique in a couple of weeks? No excuses please. Either you're lazy or you lack the knowledge. Pick one.
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Xavderion wrote:
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Legatus1982 wrote:

No, but then the facts support my case already, so it isn't needed.


Do they? One fun fact for example is that you can easily farm 1 ex per hour with an MF char when farming Dominus (and even more if you run in a dedicated group with runners and a culler). Now tell me how you can't farm any high ticket unique in a couple of weeks? No excuses please. Either you're lazy or you lack the knowledge. Pick one.


if it was so easy to farm everyone would have a shav by the 2 weeks in any temp leagues. u think people dont how to stack mf and go kill dom?
sometimes i think this "i can mf stuff easily" argument is just an excuse by botters/rmters to hide their ease in getting one so easily.
not to mention basically treating the game like a JOB (selling piety/dom rushes or farming piety dominus hundreds and thousand times over and over) and doing such every single new league starts, isn't everyone's idea of a game.
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VictorDoom wrote:
Theres only 1 problem here, you cant expect to get those unqiues just like that, youre either going to get lucky or youre going to stack MF and start doing dom/piety runs, a lot of them.

You have had an account for 2 years but you have not played nearly as much as your post suggests, you have only 2 characters that are level 82, people who find this type of gear have actually been playing for a lot of time, every day.

If you just play a lot and keep doing maps you will find stuff that is worthwhile even if you dont find shavronnes and soul takers you will eventually find enough mediocre gear to sell and pool up the exalts needed to buy the gear you want.

In this 1 week race i found an Aegis Aurora, Lioeneyes Remorse and a searing touch along with a whole bunch of other good/decent gear that i sold, i also played a fucking ridiculous amount of time and got to 90 today (even tho i didnt play for the last 2 days, probably could have gotten to 91 by now). From the random shit i found in 1 single week of playing a LOT i now have a 5link taryns shiver, a awesome 5l carnal armor along with a bunch of 19/20% gems.

I just really hope all of you who expect to get good gear realize that you have to play the game to do it, not just play a few characters to mid-high level and then expect shit to drop as if GGG is owing you shit for playing their game for a bit.

Play a lot of PoE and youll get every gear you can dream of, if you just really want it you wont get it, you have to work for it (or get lucky.)


What I read above is "POE is my life and greatest achievement. I am playing all day and all night so I deserve this. You are not playing as much as me so you dont have any right to obtain those items."

Well congratulations to you for spending your life in front of this game. As I told somewhere I only play 2-3 hours /day and my opinion is I also deserve these items because it is already too much investment in my life for just a game. It may be not too much for you, you my think I still dont "deserve" these mentioned items, but these are just your opinions. It is just related with where GGG will put the threshold of finding these items and it looks like they will lower it in 1.1.4

I have a bad news to you bro. After the buffs I may start finding these high end uniques by playing only 2-3 hours a day. I may also start enjoying the game instead of grinding stupidly for hours and days like you. I have two advices to you:

1. When I start finding these items, when drop rates increase and when other poor people also start to see some good unqiues items dont be sad ok? You are still the best and you are the king. I will send you a message everyday and tell that you are still better than me.

2. Share the wealth and share the love. You wont lose anything when everyone can obtain these items. :)
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ilenoc wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
Theres only 1 problem here, you cant expect to get those unqiues just like that, youre either going to get lucky or youre going to stack MF and start doing dom/piety runs, a lot of them.

You have had an account for 2 years but you have not played nearly as much as your post suggests, you have only 2 characters that are level 82, people who find this type of gear have actually been playing for a lot of time, every day.

If you just play a lot and keep doing maps you will find stuff that is worthwhile even if you dont find shavronnes and soul takers you will eventually find enough mediocre gear to sell and pool up the exalts needed to buy the gear you want.

In this 1 week race i found an Aegis Aurora, Lioeneyes Remorse and a searing touch along with a whole bunch of other good/decent gear that i sold, i also played a fucking ridiculous amount of time and got to 90 today (even tho i didnt play for the last 2 days, probably could have gotten to 91 by now). From the random shit i found in 1 single week of playing a LOT i now have a 5link taryns shiver, a awesome 5l carnal armor along with a bunch of 19/20% gems.

I just really hope all of you who expect to get good gear realize that you have to play the game to do it, not just play a few characters to mid-high level and then expect shit to drop as if GGG is owing you shit for playing their game for a bit.

Play a lot of PoE and youll get every gear you can dream of, if you just really want it you wont get it, you have to work for it (or get lucky.)


What I read above is "POE is my life and greatest achievement. I am playing all day and all night so I deserve this. You are not playing as much as me so you dont have any right to obtain those items."

Well congratulations to you for spending your life in front of this game. As I told somewhere I only play 2-3 hours /day and my opinion is I also deserve these items because it is already too much investment in my life for just a game. It may be not too much for you, you my think I still dont "deserve" these mentioned items, but these are just your opinions. It is just related with where GGG will put the threshold of finding these items and it looks like they will lower it in 1.1.4

I have a bad news to you bro. After the buffs I may start finding these high end uniques by playing only 2-3 hours a day. I may also start enjoying the game instead of grinding stupidly for hours and days like you. I have two advices to you:

1. When I start finding these items, when drop rates increase and when other poor people also start to see some good unqiues items dont be sad ok? You are still the best and you are the king. I will send you a message everyday and tell that you are still better than me.

2. Share the wealth and share the love. You wont lose anything when everyone can obtain these items. :)


What you read above you misdunderstood by a pretty massive amount.

I did not even come close to saying you dont deserve any items, im sure you read my post in a different tone then what i was writing it in, i didnt invest my life in it, i actually have pretty mediocre items in general compared to others, and i have fuck all for currency in all leagues, i have no maps and i just leech off of friends that invite me to them.

I'm telling you what i discovered by literally fucking a week of my life by playing this race, which i dont regret cause it was fun but im probably never doing it again cause its just way too tiring and its not my cup of tea, ill just let the top guys do it since they have a lot more time than me and dont have a job or other responsibilities they have to postpone like i did.

And i dont understand how buffing drop rates is bad news for me? I'd love finding shavs and kaoms, apart from this race my playtime is about as much as yours, you can check poestatistic for my playtime on the chars i have, the most i have played in a day is 6h apart from the race, avreage time is 1-2h per day. So it would be pretty great to have insane gear on characters without having to spend 10 hours farming some boss like most people do(which i dont do cause i hate MF-ing)

You really got way too offended by what i wrote for no reason,and im sorry that i probably typed it in a way that you would percieve it the way you did but that was not my intention.

At no point did i say you dont deserve any of the items or that im better than you or anyone else, i was telling you what i learned after i spent a week playing this game a LOT, i got good items and a nice char out of it, you should not expect to find the best gear in the game without having to invest a fuckload of time in it. That is what i learnt and what i shared.


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BisuProbe wrote:
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Xavderion wrote:
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Legatus1982 wrote:

No, but then the facts support my case already, so it isn't needed.


Do they? One fun fact for example is that you can easily farm 1 ex per hour with an MF char when farming Dominus (and even more if you run in a dedicated group with runners and a culler). Now tell me how you can't farm any high ticket unique in a couple of weeks? No excuses please. Either you're lazy or you lack the knowledge. Pick one.


if it was so easy to farm everyone would have a shav by the 2 weeks in any temp leagues. u think people dont how to stack mf and go kill dom?
sometimes i think this "i can mf stuff easily" argument is just an excuse by botters/rmters to hide their ease in getting one so easily.
not to mention basically treating the game like a JOB (selling piety/dom rushes or farming piety dominus hundreds and thousand times over and over) and doing such every single new league starts, isn't everyone's idea of a game.


So are you telling me that it isn't possible to farm 1 ex per hour with MFing Dominus? Or are you telling me that 'everyone' is too lazy/too bad to do it? What are you trying to tell me? =_=
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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Xavderion wrote:


So are you telling me that it isn't possible to farm 1 ex per hour with MFing Dominus? Or are you telling me that 'everyone' is too lazy/too bad to do it? What are you trying to tell me? =_=


ok have "fun" with your job
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BisuProbe wrote:
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Xavderion wrote:


So are you telling me that it isn't possible to farm 1 ex per hour with MFing Dominus? Or are you telling me that 'everyone' is too lazy/too bad to do it? What are you trying to tell me? =_=


ok have "fun" with your job

One hour playing a week at 1ex an hour would allow you to buy a end game mapping build that's extremely good by the end of the week.

To get a top end item mentioned in this thread that isn't shav that as a weaker version would take 1 month of playing 1 hour a day since most of them cap off at 30ex max including good (not super godly 6-links) This only mentions just making pure money and not finding anything you can use or the "good items" themselves.

Now if you want super godly items that are 100ex plus, play more or get lucky or trade more.

Drop rate buff reduces (I fully support drop rate buffs if it's healthy for the game) it by what? 120 exalts to 100 exalts? None of you who are complaining that it takes 100000 hours to get the top end super rare items or that rng may never let you find them will get them.

I would be complaining if you needed billion dollars items to beat the game and get to end game mapping, but you don't. In under a 10 ex budget with much less you can easily make it to at least the 75 map range or higher range depending on what you want to do.

I repeat I do not enjoy super Korean grinders but dear god can there not be a limited amount of selection of items that are hard to get in a game to be desired? This has nothing to do with shitty itemization end game, or the fact that "you cannot find an upgrade" or the fact that you may never get the "super highest tier" items because you do not play enough or enjoy grinding or RNG. It's the pure literal fact that there is an selection of overpowered and necessary item that some people may never get and that is desired, should everything be accessible to a tabla rasa level?
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It's the pure literal fact that there is an selection of overpowered and necessary item that some people may never get and that is desired, should everything be accessible to a tabla rasa level?


Why not God Damn It! Why not every one can't have all the items? Can someone please explain?
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VictorDoom wrote:


What you read above you misdunderstood by a pretty massive amount.

I did not even come close to saying you dont deserve any items, im sure you read my post in a different tone then what i was writing it in, i didnt invest my life in it, i actually have pretty mediocre items in general compared to others, and i have fuck all for currency in all leagues, i have no maps and i just leech off of friends that invite me to them.

I'm telling you what i discovered by literally fucking a week of my life by playing this race, which i dont regret cause it was fun but im probably never doing it again cause its just way too tiring and its not my cup of tea, ill just let the top guys do it since they have a lot more time than me and dont have a job or other responsibilities they have to postpone like i did.

And i dont understand how buffing drop rates is bad news for me? I'd love finding shavs and kaoms, apart from this race my playtime is about as much as yours, you can check poestatistic for my playtime on the chars i have, the most i have played in a day is 6h apart from the race, avreage time is 1-2h per day. So it would be pretty great to have insane gear on characters without having to spend 10 hours farming some boss like most people do(which i dont do cause i hate MF-ing)

You really got way too offended by what i wrote for no reason,and im sorry that i probably typed it in a way that you would percieve it the way you did but that was not my intention.

At no point did i say you dont deserve any of the items or that im better than you or anyone else, i was telling you what i learned after i spent a week playing this game a LOT, i got good items and a nice char out of it, you should not expect to find the best gear in the game without having to invest a fuckload of time in it. That is what i learnt and what i shared.


Then I am sorry bro. It looks likeI have misunderstood you. Sorry for that.
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ilenoc wrote:
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It's the pure literal fact that there is an selection of overpowered and necessary item that some people may never get and that is desired, should everything be accessible to a tabla rasa level?


Why not God Damn It! Why not every one can't have all the items? Can someone please explain?

You can have any item, some take shorter amount of time to get some take a longer time some require you to be lucky.

The idea of an successful game that there should be plenty for everyone to do and then a small selection for the people who play alot to reach/aim for while the people who play less may or may not want or dream for.

I'm full making the game "drop rates" better for people to access the game, I'm full for making tons of items or rares more interesting. But I don't support making every single thing "accessible" on a "normal" playing scale for whatever it means for different people.

It's like the shav, you may dream of a shav the ultimate item but you can have a much much cheaper replacement until then.

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