"If PoE increased droprates, people would instantly leave the game"

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jaredh wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

An other thing, not directed to you, is a sad red thread I keep noticing in here. Up'ing the drop rates or similar, doesn't sit well with many players. Not because it would make their gaming experience any worse, but because it would give casuals a chance to progress. And that idea seems like the end of the world to some players in here.

The gaming world is full of dweebs who think they are 'leet and their experience in the game is special such that the "lowlife casuals" should be boxed out of it.

I was in a top tier Burning Crusade guild and that vibe was everywhere in that game back then...everyone thought the game was being destroyed when they went to those 25/10 man split type raids back in Northrend. Last I checked, that game is still going strong 7 years later....

It's better to ignore elitists, in video games and especially in life. They aren't worth even paying attention to. They migrate from game to game until the makers of the game figure out they are actually not worth the trouble, which GGG seems to have figured out.

Expect them to QQ at massively loud levels for a while....then they will shut up or leave. Either way, the community is always better once the game is more friendly to everyone rather than the elite few.

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Kiluvaras wrote:

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Sixpence wrote:

Funny, all these complaints....

It's almost as if all of you didn't know what the drop rates were like when you started playing. Oh, wait, GGG has set those expectations for us by stating the game revolves around trading.

If you expect anything else, then your expectations are flawed.

Plus, if you up the drop rates, all that does is inflate the market even more, devalue iir/iiq, and make those super lucky people feel less lucky.

In my opinion, those are all bad things.

As a note: I don't trade often, I can't do high level maps. I'm not awesome at this game.

What's the point in having rare items if they're not rare? Epically rare to give you that sense of accomplishment or extreme luck.

Besides, if they upped the drop rates, you guys would still complain and we'll be sitting a year from now arguing about the same shit.

By that logic, you might as well give everybody BiS and be done with it. But then, what would be the point in playing?

Tldr rare is rare is epically rare...deal with it

Nobody is complaining about the droprates since the beginning. A year ago they were fine. Probably ur a CB player who hasn't actively played since the official release of the game.
The patch 1.0 or w/e ruined all drop rates. Some gated unique bs which basically means you will never see good stuff drop again. That's the hidden meaning behind the words. Before the release I used to get better drops doing 66-67 maps than I've been getting doing constantly 75+ maps for months now.
The only thing that inflated the market was coming up with the legacy bs which totally ruined the economy.
When it comes to items being rare, would you say a shav was any easier to obtain a year ago?
NO. It was still a luxury item. The only difference is that back then you actually had the chance to obtain a shav/kaoms after a few months of farming. Now it would probably take you a year.

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Sixpence wrote:

Plus, if you up the drop rates, all that does is inflate the market even more,

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jaredh wrote:

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Sixpence wrote:

Plus, if you up the drop rates, all that does is inflate the market even more,

Sixpence, you need to study econ more. Increase in items ==> more supply ==> lower demand ==> lower prices....NOT inflation (ie higher prices).

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Sixpence wrote:

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By that logic, you might as well give everybody BiS and be done with it. But then, what would be the point in playing?

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Spysong192 wrote:

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Sixpence wrote:

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By that logic, you might as well give everybody BiS and be done with it. But then, what would be the point in playing?

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What is the point in playing if i can "literally" never get a BiS on my own. It´s the other side of the coin in your question.


Both sides argue against each other with extrem exmaple to underline their point of view while everybody want´s to be in the middle. Except the trade tycoons hu3hu3hu3

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Fusion_Power wrote:

That's why a selffound-league for PoE is needed. There we can have better drop rates, adjusted economy for selffound and no stress with the normal standard/hardcore leagues.
I have no problem in a split between the old PoE core game with it's trading based mechanics and more userfriendly "casual" league with (mostly) selffound, balanced game content for better solo experience (MUCH better loot!), better accessible endgame content (getting to Atziri without BIS gear for example) and overall less "stress", unlike the current PoE leagues.

I'm sure both could co-exist because it does not interact in any way with each other. PoE has so much potential, it would be a waste if it stays with it's current trading/group/harcore gameplay and the compared small audience for this kind of game.
I played PoE non-stop for over 1 year, it was fun until I reached a dead end (from solo/selffound perspective) but since D3 RoS was released I never started PoE again. I know that D3 may be compared "casual" (which is of course not true if you dig deeper in D3) but the important part is: RoS is FUN! PoE is work/sress/grind/punishment compared to D3 with almost non-rewarding gameplay if you can't spent 10 hrs a day in it or group run maps non stop.

Again, PoE players should keep their current game experience, maybe even harder and even less rewarding and even more desync if they want that too. But a selffound league with complete separated economy would bring more players to PoE without affecting the classic PoE game. Maybe this even increases the audience for the classic modes of PoE? I can only see a Win/Win situation there.