Are mods being overly strict now?

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Completed 1 ChallengeARealJerk wrote:
lol. I just got edited by a mod for saying something could potentially be full retard.

haha. Is this game for kids now? It this Russia? What is going on here. WTF (what the flowerpot)


I warned you bro lol XD

Try to be politically correct and don't offend people/groups of people with certain derogatory terms, and dont RMT/bot. That's about all you're not allowed to do here, it's really quite the limited set of rules.

Basically don't be a big jelly hater.

Fuck is okay because fuck is just fuck you know?


Aside from some of the most lax RMT penalties I have ever seen and absolutely lopsided moderation, sure.
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jdilly23 wrote:
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Completed 1 ChallengeARealJerk wrote:
lol. I just got edited by a mod for saying something could potentially be full retard.

haha. Is this game for kids now? It this Russia? What is going on here. WTF (what the flowerpot)


I warned you bro lol XD

Try to be politically correct and don't offend people/groups of people with certain derogatory terms, and dont RMT/bot. That's about all you're not allowed to do here, it's really quite the limited set of rules.

Basically don't be a big jelly hater.

Fuck is okay because fuck is just fuck you know?


Aside from some of the most lax RMT penalties I have ever seen and absolutely lopsided moderation, sure.


If you mean lopsided as in some are punished for things that others are allowed to do, then yes, that's what I said.

I thought RMT penalty was insta-perma-super-slam-banhammerz?
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If you mean lopsided as in some are punished for things that others are allowed to do, then yes, that's what I said.

I thought RMT penalty was insta-perma-super-slam-banhammerz?


Absolutely not, it is disturbingly obvious how common RMT is in PoE. Their theoretical rules might be strict, but in practice, they are pathetic.

When running high maps with other level 90+ characters or trading extremely valuable items RMT is discussed as if it is the norm and that it is expected that most players participate.

People will casually offer real money for a nice legacy shavs like its nothing, or when asking friends where they got a new weapon etc it is common to get replies like "It was only 20 bucks"
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Completed 1 ChallengeTRV wrote:
My only suggestion is to remove the General button from the forum droptab. It would encourage people to find the right thread area for their posts.


We are looking at changing the drop down menu soon. It will likely still include General Discussion but will also include other relevant indexes as well. I'm unable to speculate as to when this may be implemented but I agree that it would be helpful.

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2 feedbacks:

1) Someone should not be allowed to abuse the "report" to @SUPPORT too often.
I realised it can become bad.


I can see where you might be coming from with this but it does somewhat imply that we act on issues simply because they were reported, but that is not the case. We do receive a lot of reports but we only act on issues that we feel have infringed on our Forum Guidelines or Terms of Use in some way. In this sense, it is not really possible to abuse the report options available.


I sent out a email to your staff a while back complaining about poor moderation and poor web design. I am happy to see that the moderation has become more consistent although more strict. I dont mind being moderated as long as the post in question are moved to the proper area and there is encouragement to use said subforums.
I also had complained that the current forum design funnels people in general encouraging people to post there but not many post actually belong there. I am glad to hear/see a push towards making other subforums more visible and useable.

its nice to see my concerns adressed, even if it was not my email that spured the changess.

as far as people asking for a unmoderated forum. That is just rediculous.
there are plenty of places on the internet to spew hate speech and it would be pointless to even bother with these forums if no information was ever posted without 100s of no life flame posters flooding it.
How about GGG mods supporting scammers in this game? Are you still gonna keep deleting posts where people warn other people from their experience? And do you feel like people scamming each other is the way you want it to be?

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Last edited by Jake_GGG on January 25, 2014 1:37 AM
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Deize wrote:
How about GGG mods supporting scammers in this game? Are you still gonna keep deleting posts where people warn other people from their experience? And do you feel like people scamming each other is the way you want it to be?

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Look carefully at the tone of your post and wonder if you'd ever get a serious reply from GGG about it. Seriously.

Name-and-shame is not allowed, and wasn't allowed as far back as CB, where scamming was MUCH more prevalent, because it can too easily turn into a witch-hunt. Instead of being used fairly, to appropriately highlight real scammers/cheaters/etc, it can be used as a weapon against people who've done nothing wrong.

If you feel someone IS scamming, you can contact GGG directly. Making a public post about it won't do any good. It will just be moderated, for the reason given above.

Move on.
What Carl said is true. Balance is a moving target. And unless you're Simo Häyhä, you're going to shoot and kill innocent creatures now and then, especially those ignorant enough to stick their heads out.

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Deize wrote:
How about GGG mods supporting scammers in this game? Are you still gonna keep deleting posts where people warn other people from their experience? And do you feel like people scamming each other is the way you want it to be?

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Look carefully at the tone of your post and wonder if you'd ever get a serious reply from GGG about it. Seriously.

Name-and-shame is not allowed, and wasn't allowed as far back as CB, where scamming was MUCH more prevalent, because it can too easily turn into a witch-hunt. Instead of being used fairly, to appropriately highlight real scammers/cheaters/etc, it can be used as a weapon against people who've done nothing wrong.

If you feel someone IS scamming, you can contact GGG directly. Making a public post about it won't do any good. It will just be moderated, for the reason given above.

Move on.


There is plenty of known scammers that have been reported several times directly to GGG via e-mails and guess what? They don't fucking care or do anything about it. Don't come with this "Praise GGG god" bullshit on me again. Pls..
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Last edited by Jake_GGG on January 25, 2014 1:37 AM
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I thought RMT penalty was insta-perma-super-slam-banhammerz?


It is if it can be proven 100% without a shadow of a doubt. Chris functions that way -- it's part of his annoyingly fair, ethical demeanour. He is not content with 90% probability of guilt, because that 10% chance of innocence might bite him in the butt.

Meanwhile GGG wage the war against actual bots and RMT sites, perhaps unwilling to admit that a fair chunk of their playerbase is the real enemy, and likely an enemy created by what many consider to be an unfair, sadistic loot/crafting system.

Not saying that an overhaul of either would stop the RMT -- people are going to cheat either way -- but I do think it'd reduce it.
What Carl said is true. Balance is a moving target. And unless you're Simo Häyhä, you're going to shoot and kill innocent creatures now and then, especially those ignorant enough to stick their heads out.

My will has been dispensed.
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Deize wrote:

There is plenty of known scammers that have been reported several times directly to GGG via e-mails and guess what? They don't fucking care or do anything about it. Don't come with this "Praise GGG god" bullshit on me again. Pls..


See my post above. I'm not saying 'praise GGG god'. I think they've fucked up on a number of fronts. I'm just saying WHY name-and-shame should not be publicly allowed. Learn.
What Carl said is true. Balance is a moving target. And unless you're Simo Häyhä, you're going to shoot and kill innocent creatures now and then, especially those ignorant enough to stick their heads out.

My will has been dispensed.
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Deize wrote:

There is plenty of known scammers that have been reported several times directly to GGG via e-mails and guess what? They don't fucking care or do anything about it. Don't come with this "Praise GGG god" bullshit on me again. Pls..


See my post above. I'm not saying 'praise GGG god'. I think they've fucked up on a number of fronts. I'm just saying WHY name-and-shame should not be publicly allowed. Learn.


So you think people who play PoE are that stupid not to see who is trolling and who iss not about someone being a scammer? And most people would just spam other peoples threads saying they are scammers without a reason?

So the better solution is to SUPPORT DIRECTLY scammers by deleting posts that say "this guys is a scammer, care!". And even tho their threads fill up with these warnings, mods just remove them so scammers can keep doing what they want.

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