Bad loot - a response

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reboticon wrote:

No, loot sucks in all leagues, but you can more easily work around it in HC/SC with quantity.

Rings that sell for multi ex, you are funny. Do you have any idea how much ex I made in standard after Anarchy merger? Your league has been open for a year and is inundated with items. I made over 20 ex in standard in 2 days selling shit that no one would buy in Anarchy.

voll's devotion and gifts from above went for 15 chaos max for 3.75 months in anarchy. When we realized how much standard players would sell for them they shot up into the exa range because we knew we'd get 3x or more from your league. The game is not balanced around standard. Try rolling in a league and then come tell me how drops are.


Of course you can't sell stuff for couple of exalts daily in a new league, what the hell?

And of course that items that weren't in standard league and suddenly came into it will be overpriced, because of the demand for them.

Very bad examples...

And of course the same item is more valuable in Standard because of the supply and demand. You can't compare prices from a new league and Standard.

You'll make 10 exalts in Standard while one will make 3 exalts in Domination/Nemesis for the same items, logical.

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johnKeys wrote:


stopped reading as soon as I saw the above word.

you seem to be missing the point, OP.
by a nautical mile.

so let me be as polite and articulate about this as I can. ahem:

I don't give a fucking rat's ass about how much the stuff I drop are "worth".
all I care is my Standard League Marauder has been running around with this hammer
since early fucking April 2012.

in an ARPG, you're supposed to kill shit so shit can drop loot, and that loot should occasionally be an upgrade to at least one of the characters you play.
"drop" and "upgrade" being key words here.
additionally - as a completely optional feature - you can have a crafting system that's actually fucking crafting, and higher chances for stronger shit to drop better loot.

note the absence of the words "trade", "wealth", "worth" and "cost" in this post.


And Chris, as do I, don't give a damn if you don't make money by selling thing that dropped to you and buy things that is an upgrade to you.

I don't care how often do you play, what's your MF or MF with anyone you play with, etc.

Very fucking sad you didn't find an upgrade to that maul, loot must suck because johnKeys did not find an upgrade for his weapon.

I myself find 350+ DPS 2-handers twice a week, and I play 6 hours a day on average.
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tinko92 wrote:
And Chris, as do I, don't give a damn if you don't make money by selling thing that dropped to you and buy things that is an upgrade to you.

I don't care how often do you play, what's your MF or MF with anyone you play with, etc.

Very fucking sad you didn't find an upgrade to that maul, loot must suck because johnKeys did not find an upgrade for his weapon.

I myself find 350+ DPS 2-handers twice a week, and I play 6 hours a day on average.


+1

RNG gonna RNG
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tinko92 wrote:
We've all seen so many complains about bad loot, example:

"I've farmed Dominus for 3 days, 6 hours per day, with MF, and I got 0 Soul Takers, Voltaxic's ..."


So lame, so much lies in this thread. But even if you all are lying fanboys, truth does not change. Please link to some of the many complaints about not getting Soul Takers or Voltaxic in 3 days...

Most people whine about not getting top tier loot after playing 1000 hours, not 3 god damn days. And most of all, we whine about this game not being about killing stuff, but salesmanship. You are a bunch of shop owners, and then call yourself hardcore. That is just funny.
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Peace_Frog wrote:
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tinko92 wrote:
And Chris, as do I, don't give a damn if you don't make money by selling thing that dropped to you and buy things that is an upgrade to you.

I don't care how often do you play, what's your MF or MF with anyone you play with, etc.

Very fucking sad you didn't find an upgrade to that maul, loot must suck because johnKeys did not find an upgrade for his weapon.

I myself find 350+ DPS 2-handers twice a week, and I play 6 hours a day on average.


+1

RNG gonna RNG


and trade gonna trade trade trade for your upgrades, because you won't drop any.
you must trade in a hardcore ARPG game!
it's elementary, since Path Of Exile created the Action Role Playing Game genre and defined the proper use of a Random Numbers Generator.

@OP, you drop these 350+ DPS 2-handers twice a week. I drop them once a year.
count the drop rate for a small sample of say 998 more players, and calculate a median.
now, add the relative percentage of players who actually got their good loot from killing serious badass shit, compared to those who did from a damn barrel, while bot-farming an area -10 their level.

this game hardcore enough for you? so why don't you TRADE yet?

I also bet you're an awesome mind-reader too, knowing exactly what Chris thinks about my ability to find upgrades for hammers.
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Last edited by johnKeys#6083 on Jan 8, 2014, 3:08:48 PM
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rondanashu wrote:
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tinko92 wrote:
We've all seen so many complains about bad loot, example:

"I've farmed Dominus for 3 days, 6 hours per day, with MF, and I got 0 Soul Takers, Voltaxic's ..."


So lame, so much lies in this thread. But even if you all are lying fanboys, truth does not change. Please link to some of the many complaints about not getting Soul Takers or Voltaxic in 3 days...

Most people whine about not getting top tier loot after playing 1000 hours, not 3 god damn days. And most of all, we whine about this game not being about killing stuff, but salesmanship. You are a bunch of shop owners, and then call yourself hardcore. That is just funny.

And there are people who played less then 300 hours who have soul takers, voltaxic and multi top tier loot.

Since this game is based off of RNG and not socialism or communism where everyone gets equally rich at the same pace, yeah RNG sucks.

The problem with this issue is that people feel entitled to the top tier loot once they played over a certain amount of threshold.
Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Jan 8, 2014, 3:05:47 PM
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and trade gonna trade trade trade for your upgrades, because you won't drop any.
you must trade in a hardcore ARPG game!
it's elementary, since Path Of Exile created the Action Role Playing Game genre and defined the proper use of a Random Numbers Generator.


That's not true at all. Many people find upgrades. That just depends on the quality of your current gear and if you've traded for it at all. There was even a topic a week ago that asked people if they ever find upgrades and the response was immense. Practically everyone posted the many pieces of gear they've found that were upgrades.

As for your maul.. It's nothing special. I'm sure you've found higher dps mauls that you just weren't willing to 5 link. I find higher DPS mauls daily so don't even bother saying you haven't found any in 6 months.
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kasub wrote:
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and trade gonna trade trade trade for your upgrades, because you won't drop any.
you must trade in a hardcore ARPG game!
it's elementary, since Path Of Exile created the Action Role Playing Game genre and defined the proper use of a Random Numbers Generator.


That's not true at all. Many people find upgrades. That just depends on the quality of your current gear and if you've traded for it at all. There was even a topic a week ago that asked people if they ever find upgrades and the response was immense. Practically everyone posted the many pieces of gear they've found that were upgrades.

As for your maul.. It's nothing special. I'm sure you've found higher dps mauls that you just weren't willing to 5 link. I find higher DPS mauls daily so don't even bother saying you haven't found any in 6 months.


Naw has to be automatic 6 link +400 dps maul or I won't pick it up, anything else is trash.
Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Jan 8, 2014, 3:08:39 PM
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RagnarokChu wrote:
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rondanashu wrote:
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tinko92 wrote:
We've all seen so many complains about bad loot, example:

"I've farmed Dominus for 3 days, 6 hours per day, with MF, and I got 0 Soul Takers, Voltaxic's ..."


So lame, so much lies in this thread. But even if you all are lying fanboys, truth does not change. Please link to some of the many complaints about not getting Soul Takers or Voltaxic in 3 days...

Most people whine about not getting top tier loot after playing 1000 hours, not 3 god damn days. And most of all, we whine about this game not being about killing stuff, but salesmanship. You are a bunch of shop owners, and then call yourself hardcore. That is just funny.

And there are people who played less then 300 hours who have soul takers, voltaxic and multi top tier loot.

Since this game is based off of RNG and not socialism or communism where everyone gets equally rich at the same pace, yeah RNG sucks.

The problem with this issue is that people feel entitled to the top tier loot once they played over a certain amount of threshold.


Yes, after 1000 hours in game trying to kill stuff, I do indeed feel entitled. That is not some first world modern generation sense of entitlement, I've spent 1000 hours ingame!

On the other side, trading trading trading will net you infinitely more than wastefully killing stuff. Many feel that this is wrong. Or at least that the ratio of what you gain by trading vs. killing is out of wack.
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