Trying out Duelist/Ranger Life/armour crit melee build
" he wasnt using charges, he stated himself ... to press a button on flask and cast enfeeble ... well if you cant do it, dont play this game, str8 up Im telling ya, sorry. and it was a crit obviously, lmao, vaal smash rarely ever doesn't crit. He was left at 100 hp without topaz, 81res and 1150 with topaz, 91 res. Thats with the 92% lightning map mod, which makes him do an EXTRA 5-6k lightning dmg on smash you know what it means? That a normal smash would have left him with around 1500-2000 hp O_O ... he had 53k armor, and for it he only sacrificed some dps nodes for a few 10-30% armor nodes. The rest all came from eva / armor on gear, IR and grace, flask, determination. Why dont you admit you were wrong about armor? Its not bad against big hits, a SMALL amount of armor is bad against big hits ... theres a difference. Thats like saying resists are bad against elemenetal dmg if you got 20 res all. " You are not paying attention, we are talking about vaal smash here. The most dmging physical attack in the game. Also mixed with high fire dmg, so more can be mitigated with a flask. And as I stated, thats with lightning dmg map mod, he would have been left with round 2k life otherwise ... on a VAAL SMASH lol. IF that aint tanky, I dont know what is... [quote="DirkAustin"]They can always make a loser league where Monsters do no damage and you one shot everything. Goodness, people, just don't play in the hard parts of the game if you cant handle them.[/quote] Last edited by JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal#2846 on Jul 23, 2013, 6:06:04 AM
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FYI: http://i.imgur.com/HWND8.png
Anyway it is stupid to only rely on armor and life that's for sure and apparently you agree on that. So that is the reason I'm also focusing on shield block and use Enfeeble and granites for sure. Point is I would rather not use temporary buffs just because that is not my style, it feels like defensive from passives, gear and auras are not strong enough and that temporary buffs like curses, flasks and charges are mandatory. But I already accepted that this is the way it works, I don't have to admit anything. I would rather get some feedback on the build I posted and on how to proceed to Merciless. Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Jul 23, 2013, 6:10:55 AM
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" 5000 armor, lmao ... even perfect granite gives more when you pay attention and actually read what i wrote, come back thanks [quote="DirkAustin"]They can always make a loser league where Monsters do no damage and you one shot everything. Goodness, people, just don't play in the hard parts of the game if you cant handle them.[/quote] Last edited by JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal#2846 on Jul 23, 2013, 6:06:50 AM
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" It is you that needs to read, you are discussing something that has already been discussed in this thread. The only feedback you have given me up to know is to use a granite. It was already clear to me that I should use granites and something else like Enfeeble long before you arrived here with your grumpy trollface :D  Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Jul 23, 2013, 6:15:07 AM
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" wow obstinate, hardheaded and ignorant all in one. Im out of this thread because I dont need more stupid probation, enjoy your unwillingness to adapt and superior lack of knowledge. [quote="DirkAustin"]They can always make a loser league where Monsters do no damage and you one shot everything. Goodness, people, just don't play in the hard parts of the game if you cant handle them.[/quote]
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" I am willing to adapt that is why I am asking for feedback (facepalm) -EDIT- And also: About that Dragon build: That is exactly why I am now playing as a Duelist, the build he using is the default no brainer boring "All defense with RT" Marauder/Templar build with no uniqueness that made me switch to Duelist to begin with! As the title might suggest: I want to build a life/armor based crit melee build Anyway thanks for pointing out the Granites, maybe next time try a bit harder to understand a thread before replying and you might come up with some real feedback. Bye and good luck with your probation. can any body please give me some more in-depth feedback instead though? My Duelist is already lvl44 and in Cruel A2. The overall experience has been very good compared with the experience I had as Templar and Marauder. I feel that the DPS of the Duelist is a lot better and of course he is a lot faster which feel very satisfying. I hardly notice any difference defensive wise compared to Templar or Marauder. I have had some good experience with certain uniques playing as Marauder/Templar that helped my Duelist rush through normal in no time as well: -Ignomon amulet (lvl 8) -Kaltenhalt buckler (lvl 16) -Brightbeak hammer (lvl 20) -Peregrine sallet (lvl 23) These uniques are quite cheap, like only 1 chaos. So now I am in cruel act 2 and still doing ok. I have enough life to use BM support gems for my attack skills. My main concern atm is my lack of INT, I am using some items with a lot of INT on it in order to use my weapon and upgrade gems like enfeeble, I also am unable to respec a +Mana/Mana regen/+INT node that I don't need anymore because of BM. Another thing is that my stash doesn't contain anymore item upgrades and I need to find or buy new upgrades, I do not have specific uniques I am thinking of. Probably at this point it will be better to upgrade the uniques I am using with higher level rares. Here is my current build and gear, I appreciate your feedback! Passives: Skills: -Lightning Strike - Fork - Blood Magic -Double Strike - Blood Magic - Melee Physical Damage -Flicker Strike - Melee Splash -Tempest Shield - Determination - Reduced Mana -Enfeeble -Hatred Gear: Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Jul 23, 2013, 6:26:38 AM
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" Its not any other RT build, its block / spell block / mixed ele / physical with its own little specialities and its absolutely fantastic. Boring is heavily subjective. It is not at all, to me. His build is TANKY as fuck. He can get 10k dps minimum which for solo game is more than enough, 10k dps that always hits. Group games dps you say? I dont care, melee is not made for that and thats that. But they still do well there and tank for the group which is great. crit physical is probably the worst idea ever if you are not slightly to very rich, you need accuracy, crit chance / dmg to come from items to maintain a good survivability oriented skill tree distribution, and at the same time to actually hit and then roll a crit. And alternate gear / skill setup for reflect because physi reflect will WRECK you since mobs got stupidly low armor so practically ALL your damage is being reflected at reflect's effectiveness (18 to 36% depending if one reflect mob or reflect mob + map mod) and it scales with different amounts of armor differently, as you know. And you want good life / armor with that build? Massive scrubcore build with the /deaths of a discharger without vaal pact who tries to take on a reflect map anyway. Good luck lol. [quote="DirkAustin"]They can always make a loser league where Monsters do no damage and you one shot everything. Goodness, people, just don't play in the hard parts of the game if you cant handle them.[/quote] Last edited by JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal#2846 on Jul 23, 2013, 6:43:31 AM
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It is almost the exact same passives build as I was using originally and that almost every life/armor Marauder/Templar is using. Yes I find that boring.
Crit melee is a bad idea? Maybe, but should it be possible HELL YES. Also GGG mentioned they will probably add a physical crit status like shock/burn/freeze (probably just stun). I rather have a big challenge then having to play as a "pre-chewed" build somebody else and all his friends are using, can you understand that? If Yes, can you then provide suggestions to improve or shut up instead of telling me to go for RT Life Marauder again? I think reflect is a problem for everybody, have to watch out for that always. Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Jul 23, 2013, 7:24:42 AM
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" Stop raging and calm down. I am NOT saying it is impossible, it will be possible to solo some lowish scrubby level 66 - 69 maps but that is it, if you arent geared for it. And I am NOT telling you to play RT Life marauder, I DONT care what you play lol ... Although I am telling you, you will fail with that crit build if you arent rich. With dragons build vs for example, a crit shadow build ... you are going to do far better on the previous with average gear than the latter, which demands perfection in every area. Physical reflect is not like ele reflect ... Reflect with physical on crit will wreck you, same with EK as it is with any physical melee / projectile attack. Are you going vaal pact? I doubt it. And still, it wont save you all the time. Because physical isnt a fixed % resist like resistance to elemental dmg. You will have to have poison arrow or viper strike on swap (lol) for a single reflect mob, and completely ignore reflect maps (not nice if you roll a gg quantity one and have to chaos cuz of it) unless you run stuff like lightning strike or some other mixed ele / phys attack (which can still instakill on crit with high ias), or elemental hit lol. [quote="DirkAustin"]They can always make a loser league where Monsters do no damage and you one shot everything. Goodness, people, just don't play in the hard parts of the game if you cant handle them.[/quote] Last edited by JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal#2846 on Jul 23, 2013, 8:29:47 AM
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Oke fine, I will go for that perfect gear then and farm some lower level content until I am there.
I also found the answer to reflect in another thread I posted: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/475076 Lol. So then I assume my passive tree is perfect since you have no suggestions regarding that? |
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