Trying out Duelist/Ranger Life/armour crit melee build

"

Startkabels wrote:

"

Explosiveburn wrote:

I can help you with this...

First of all 120 points is not really good to base a build around try and go for 88(level 70)
crit+hp not a good mix due to reflect which will probably kill you.
Also lava lash and ice bite are terrible because they only multiple the elemental on your weapon and your doing elemental and you have physical leech Node and warlords mark which is physical leech you need the skill gem because that leeches elemental.
You can still get good dps with resolute and no crit.
Lava Lash and Anger Don't add onto Molton shell because its a spell.

Il show you a version of the tree that i would do in a sec.

Here is a basic Structure for a Mele Build
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAdwCcQSzBS0OrRjbGS4aOCFgJ-0pLimlMgkyiUCgQ5xKfVBQU99X4lhjWNtZ81uvXz9gS2ebZ6BuaXKpdO108Xfleu-E2YTvh3aMz5BVm4OeuaIAp4SsqrndvqfAD8AaxtjSTdSP3Q3sOO8O707wH_Iv9kj8xT38fLh82cT2PC3Grrc-eriuk7Xyplc64Yjx_gryRedjqW54Db6KpBkb-iXfFE1lTUd-q8U=

Thats of Armor/Health to surivive hardcore now you can add on damage or more health if you like to be honest you don't need much damage in the tree because links give enough damage.

Add any Damage nodes or endurnce charges, anything else you want on that build (Level 70)

Also armor nodes are great and whoever said the didn't scale is wrong if your running grace and determ then they will be even more awesome

You are right about the 120 point but I will focus on Life in the Templar, Marauder and Duelist tree first. That will be the main build. I will pick up crit nodes and the entire section in the top of the tree in the end. But hopefully I will obtain insane life gear so I can get some damage nodes in between too not having to get all the life first. (sad it works this way btw but guess nothing we can do about it)

Reflect will probably be very dangerous indeed but I think that counts for every player and that will not be a valid reason for me the choose not te play as a cit/life melee char. I'd rather try and work around those mobs. Also I have Reduced enemy crit damage, will that work when my own crit reflects?

I cannot agree with you regarding Lava Lash and Ice bite since they will work together with Catalyze and they are along the path in the tree. I will also use Anger which would boost fire damage even more I guess and like I said: Increased weapon elemental damage on gear would also be nice.
Maybe you have a point regarding life leech that is based on physical, I would assume that physical life leech would still be valid with elemental damage on your weapon, no? Also what elemental leech gem are you talking about?

Now that tree you posted, that is so boring (no offence). Trust me: I know that is how I'm SUPPOSED to build melee but I will follow the game concept and want to build a character that I like in the best way possible and not a build that everybody uses because else it is too difficult.

I mean come on: Crit melee? Should be possible no?

"

Startkabels wrote:

Yeah I know, CI build are way better for crit melee :(

I want to play with life and armor, not with ES :*(

I just like that style better

"

D3was wrote:

Hi
I play Infernal blow like Dragon on Onslaught

Check

and im Fine... (level 77+)

You just have 2 think about some stuff ... go for 75+ resis and add Purity why... you need that overresis if you get cursed and you have like 50 resis you are dead !

--> Example the Necros curse you --> Skellets Cold Projectiles hit you for up to 3 times the DMG !!! (-34 resis from curse... )

Overresis are everything !! ( thats why in the Guide you get all!!! the resis you can get from passiv tree)

2. Use a nice shield with high block !! get all the block you can get for your skills its amazing how much dmg reduction you get from block !!(--> later get Aegis Aurora maybee but you dont need it... i cant affort it yet :( !)

3. Get Enfeeble for Bosses like Brutus they hit realy hard !

4. You need like 6-8k Armor at least ... (Add Iron reflex, Determination or other Passives.. just get that ammount and you are fine)
If you cant get that use Flask, i used all Flask with 100% armor and Granit + 2 Faster Running flasks

5. Enjoy the Power of Facerolling the Content Farming Docks, Catatacombs like nothing... Do Meeps (depends on your equip)

Why is Meele better than Spark and other Shit ?

I dont die from Hits cause i get all the time hit so i expect dmg and i can handle it with Enduring cry, Flask or Enfeeble
--> dmg inc. use enduring Cry --> more dmg use Flask --> more dmg use Enfeeble .. --> more dmg use Running Flask run :)

A low equiped Sparker can die from a single hit ! if he doesnt expect it !!! (0 Armor 3k Energy shield he gets tons of dmg!)

If you feel Save in the Maps/Farming ground you can Pull all the Mobs !
I can do Catacombs run in less then 3 Minutes ( skipping whites or stuff i dont like only going for Champs and Large Chest) City of Sarn less then 1 Min ! do that as a sparker :) you cant!


Only Discharge is more imba as a propper Meele char :)

And never do Vaal (Mercy and Meeeps) :) i hate him i dont do him with Meele ! Im not so skilled to dodge but i know that so i dont do him especialy with Desync and stuff :)

"

Startkabels wrote:

"

D3was wrote:

Hi
I play Infernal blow like Dragon on Onslaught

Check

and im Fine... (level 77+)

You just have 2 think about some stuff ... go for 75+ resis and add Purity why... you need that overresis if you get cursed and you have like 50 resis you are dead !

--> Example the Necros curse you --> Skellets Cold Projectiles hit you for up to 3 times the DMG !!! (-34 resis from curse... )

Overresis are everything !! ( thats why in the Guide you get all!!! the resis you can get from passiv tree)

2. Use a nice shield with high block !! get all the block you can get for your skills its amazing how much dmg reduction you get from block !!(--> later get Aegis Aurora maybee but you dont need it... i cant affort it yet :( !)

3. Get Enfeeble for Bosses like Brutus they hit realy hard !

4. You need like 6-8k Armor at least ... (Add Iron reflex, Determination or other Passives.. just get that ammount and you are fine)
If you cant get that use Flask, i used all Flask with 100% armor and Granit + 2 Faster Running flasks

5. Enjoy the Power of Facerolling the Content Farming Docks, Catatacombs like nothing... Do Meeps (depends on your equip)

Why is Meele better than Spark and other Shit ?

I dont die from Hits cause i get all the time hit so i expect dmg and i can handle it with Enduring cry, Flask or Enfeeble
--> dmg inc. use enduring Cry --> more dmg use Flask --> more dmg use Enfeeble .. --> more dmg use Running Flask run :)

A low equiped Sparker can die from a single hit ! if he doesnt expect it !!! (0 Armor 3k Energy shield he gets tons of dmg!)

If you feel Save in the Maps/Farming ground you can Pull all the Mobs !
I can do Catacombs run in less then 3 Minutes ( skipping whites or stuff i dont like only going for Champs and Large Chest) City of Sarn less then 1 Min ! do that as a sparker :) you cant!


Only Discharge is more imba as a propper Meele char :)

And never do Vaal (Mercy and Meeeps) :) i hate him i dont do him with Meele ! Im not so skilled to dodge but i know that so i dont do him especialy with Desync and stuff :)

I don't want to be rude but this is becoming a very boring story and I blame GGG.

The build you posted? ALL DEFENSE + RT = BORING.

About the elemental resists: I have about the same amount in my build and I know it is enough to (almost) max out your resist in Merc with good gear.

Regarding shield block: I actually love shield block but I would have to drop all my one handed and crit nodes to get that.

This is becoming very frustrating, I really feel I'm being forced into a specific build which is annoying me for days now.

I play this game because I want to build a toon that is my own idea and is unique, not a pre-chewed (Dutch saying) build.

"

Explosiveburn wrote:

Then just play standard seriously..
I play hardcore and standard for hardcore i have my real builds(Tanky RoA, Ci Cyclone on onslaught) and on standard i have my fun builds like 10k dps cyclone facebreakers that you would have to be crazy to run on hardcore. and my elemtnal ci cyclone witch.

If you want to make fun builds go standard, if you want to go hardcore you need to go tryhard and build super tanky.

"

Startkabels wrote:

"

Explosiveburn wrote:

Then just play standard seriously..
I play hardcore and standard for hardcore i have my real builds(Tanky RoA, Ci Cyclone on onslaught) and on standard i have my fun builds like 10k dps cyclone facebreakers that you would have to be crazy to run on hardcore. and my elemtnal ci cyclone witch.

If you want to make fun builds go standard, if you want to go hardcore you need to go tryhard and build super tanky.

That won't make any difference because what you basically saying is that I would die a lot. I play hardcore because I am a hardcore player and I investigate game mechanics a lot.

Now if I die a lot when using a well planned character (read: A character that makes sense because "well planned" in PoE is following builds everybody uses)just because game mechanics are broken I will be right back on this forum complaining