It's so BORING to do storyline all over again

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Hayrich wrote:

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ninedeadeyes wrote:

From reading there seem to be a sense of entitlement from the new players. I guess that is what happens when you get popular. You get the casuals who wants it all but wants to invest little :P

It's not a new player thing. It's an improvement thing. Yup, using the word "casuals" just like any self entitled elitist. PoE getting popular is a good thing, but people like you act all high and mighty about it.

I've been with this game a long time, since beta. I'm not asking for things, just because. If you tell me you can speedrun campaign in 8 hours, then give me an endless map for leveling to 70 in 8 hours as well. I'm not asking for faster or instant level 70 or whatever. I just can't stand running campaign again for every new character in every league, all that fetching and hunting, picking up this and that, wondering which quests give points and whatnot.

you barely have any characters on your profile for someone who has been playing since open beta, do you even re-roll during a league ? If you don't you are in the same boat as which means its a nice change 1 character per league from the endless mapping that you will doing and to be honest esp since open beta they've added and changed the story campaign so much so for someone with so few characters like you it would be quite different everytime you play..

from 2 x 8 to 3x3 then 3x4 and now 1-10

It would be a nice bonus if they did add a 'grind system ' but the very least it can only be unlocked after completing 1 to 10 acts that league but don't hold your breath and to be honest you guys are a small minority to really want this.

just play standard

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Excyis wrote:

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Ornias wrote:

D3 got it right with adventure mode imo.

Aye that was one thing D3 managed to do alright.

I don't understand what's the point of forcing players through acts they've played 200 times before.


Make it optional. I am not happy.

Besides the removal of the AH, this was Blizzards second mistake. The story in an ARPG is the most important aspect, to no longer have it, is terrible.

I loved Vanilla D3, played the story multiple times and it was always a great joy. Adventure mode is boring, just like rifts. Always the same, no thank you!


POE suffers from the issue that maps have so many dead ends and that we can not get past small rocks and stuff. This turns leveling and to some degree mapping into a little nightmare.

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Ygidua wrote:

I loved Vanilla D3, played the story multiple times and it was always a great joy. Adventure mode is boring, just like rifts. Always the same, no thank you!

This is ridiculus statement with lack of simple logic. So, you think rifts and adventure mode are "always the same", but storyline in your opinion is... not always the same? Very disapointing. How can u argue with people if you cant even build logical connections in your own post?

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ninedeadeyes wrote:

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Hayrich wrote:

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ninedeadeyes wrote:

From reading there seem to be a sense of entitlement from the new players. I guess that is what happens when you get popular. You get the casuals who wants it all but wants to invest little :P

It's not a new player thing. It's an improvement thing. Yup, using the word "casuals" just like any self entitled elitist. PoE getting popular is a good thing, but people like you act all high and mighty about it.

I've been with this game a long time, since beta. I'm not asking for things, just because. If you tell me you can speedrun campaign in 8 hours, then give me an endless map for leveling to 70 in 8 hours as well. I'm not asking for faster or instant level 70 or whatever. I just can't stand running campaign again for every new character in every league, all that fetching and hunting, picking up this and that, wondering which quests give points and whatnot.

you barely have any characters on your profile for someone who has been playing since open beta, do you even re-roll during a league ? If you don't you are in the same boat as which means its a nice change 1 character per league from the endless mapping that you will doing and to be honest esp since open beta they've added and changed the story campaign so much so for someone with so few characters like you it would be quite different everytime you play..

from 2 x 8 to 3x3 then 3x4 and now 1-10

It would be a nice bonus if they did add a 'grind system ' but the very least it can only be unlocked after completing 1 to 10 acts that league but don't hold your breath and to be honest you guys are a small minority to really want this.

I knew someone would go dig my character history. For the matter, I do delete characters. While I can't say I'm a prolific player, I have done the campaign enough times to not want to do it again. That might vary from person to person, what "enough" constitutes. I've done the "3 difficulty" campaigns more than a few times, and since they released Act 10 in 3.0, twice again. Maybe someone would come in and say, "that's nothing, I did it a billion times", but that's not the point. The point is, at a certain level, most players would have their fill of campaign. They might want to create new builds, run new leagues with new characters, explore maps and the new things a league has to offer, and the preference is not to do campaign again.

Once again, not about efficiency. If you offer me an endless map that takes 8-10 hours to reach 70 (just as any speed run will), I'm perfectly good with that. I don't know where you get your numbers about minorities, but I can imagine there are people out there like me who is sick of campaign runs. Fetching ribbon spools and Chitum plums must be so exhilarating.

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ninedeadeyes wrote:

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Excyis wrote:

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ninedeadeyes wrote:

From reading there seem to be a sense of entitlement from the new players. I guess that is what happens when you get popular. You get the casuals who wants it all but wants to invest little :P

Wrong.

I invested more in this game than in any other in my life and I plan to invest much more. Just that right now the act running is so tedious I have little initiative to continue making new characters and experimenting with new builds.

I'm by no means a "pro" but I don't think my game time is that casual-like, mr.Hardcore person.

Yep.. From looking at your characters you sure aren't a pro. You tend to stop playing before the 'meat' of the game even barely start from the looks of your characters, lol

Either way the only way I can see them doing this is if you complete all 10 acts first and then maybe give you an option but to be honest re-rolling a character only takes 10 to 15 hours ( with levelling gear ) which is nothing and if anything a nice change from the 100s of hours in mapping ( which you clearly don't do, lol )

>You tend to stop playing before the 'meat' of the game even barely start from the looks of your characters, lol

And? As if it makes my opinion less valid on re-rolling new characters?

> re-rolling a character only takes 10 to 15 hours ( with levelling gear )
I don't mind leveling. It's the quests.


> which is nothing and if anything a nice change from the 100s of hours in mapping ( which you clearly don't do, lol )

I don't do hundreds of hours of mapping is because I like creating new builds and experimenting with weird stuff. Not all of them end up viable but that's where I enjoy the game. Creating builds and testing them.(one of the things they marketed this game as) Not running fetch quests.

I'm not asking to be instant level 60 so I could go in to mapping. I don't mind leveling from lvl 1. I just want an alternative leveling method opposed to campaign which I grew tired of long ago.

People saying campaign is an "introduction to league mechanics" - you can have the same shit when playing through maps from level 1-100. Same shit. We just wouldn't need to put up with tedious fetch quests.

Give me endless ledge.

After two weeks I finally finished campaign...

And turned out my build is completely useless in maps, especially due to frame rate, but also gameplay style.

Now I have to spend another two weeks grinding, to get another character to maps..and then see that I can't play even this class (the frame rate is simply atrocious no matter what I play). My first breach ended up RIP due to complete screen freeze).

Thanks Obama.

This goes for a lot of content in the game, most of the time you are better playing 1-2 characters for the whole league unless you are playing standard.

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Excyis wrote:

>You tend to stop playing before the 'meat' of the game even barely start from the looks of your characters, lol

And? As if it makes my opinion less valid on re-rolling new characters?

> re-rolling a character only takes 10 to 15 hours ( with levelling gear )
I don't mind leveling. It's the quests.

Well if you play the game in a way only a small minority of people play it, don't expect the game to change for to cater for your unique playing style. Either way we shall see what happens, if they do implement an endless ledge next league, i'll def give it a try but will be very disappointed with GGG if it is unlocked from the very beginning.

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ninedeadeyes wrote:

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Excyis wrote:

>You tend to stop playing before the 'meat' of the game even barely start from the looks of your characters, lol

And? As if it makes my opinion less valid on re-rolling new characters?

> re-rolling a character only takes 10 to 15 hours ( with levelling gear )
I don't mind leveling. It's the quests.

Well if you play the game in a way only a small minority of people play it, don't expect the game to change for to cater for your unique playing style. Either way we shall see what happens, if they do implement an endless ledge next league, i'll def give it a try but will be very disappointed with GGG if it is unlocked from the very beginning.

I don't see what's wrong with giving players options. If they don't want their campaign to be wasted, they still can allow access to people who start with endless ledge.
There still are trials and side-quests for regret points.

Would give a reason to do campaign for those who don't want to spend money on regret orbs.
Offer a full-character respec for free at the end of campaign or something.

Otherwise I don't understand what's bad with allowing players to have more fun if they already went through campaign 50s of times and feel tired of it.

Also saying "small minority"... would you kindly provide the statistics where you get small minority from?