please don't create legacy ES mods

it also says

"All local Energy Shield modifiers on items, as well as the base Energy Shield of items, have been reduced at higher levels."

the part you highlight when i read it in context seemed to refer to non es chests

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Oh you can't stop it they're not going to piss off the veteran users just for your sake like I fucking worked hard for my 5+ 950+ ES chest despite it's standard it's a memento you aren't taking that away from me.

They said that the 33% implicit reduction will be retroactive, just the rolls on the items wont.

Same as when they nerfed EV shields.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

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k1rage wrote:

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SaiyanZ wrote:

They said that they're increasing the base defense values by 20% as well so I assume that this chest is now going to be over 1100ES?

I thought they were lowering the base es....

did I misread something?

They're lowering the highest %ES mods which won't affect Standard unless you divine the item. They also mentioned this though:

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We've also increased the defences granted by all Body equipment at higher levels by 20%.

Such a change is normally retroactive and affects all existing items because it changes the base value.

Thats for non ES chests.

The plan for all ES items including existing ones is -33% implicit ES.

What about hybrids, whats gonna happen to this?

Surely that doesnt deserve -33% ES, it would be useless otherwise.

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All local Energy Shield modifiers on items, as well as the base Energy Shield of items, have been reduced at higher levels. Very low-level items will see a slight increase or no change, scaling up to a 33% reduction at the highest tier of modifiers.

If I read correctly, this should be a slight buff for ES on low tier items like simple robe, but in the case of high tier items like vaal regalia, the base value should be reduced by 33%. So, legacy items will get their implicit amount nerfed but will be allowed to keep the same explicit, while newly dropped items will have their values reduced on both implicits and explicits by 33%.

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Madzak wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

You will not want to be crafting anything ES in temps if these changes hold up. You will use temp to make T1 life gear instead. But I hear you.

At least one person that actually understood my about 20 lines of text. Thanks.

Oh i totally understood your post. But i stand by my word, if they fuck up my crafted items (like they did in the past) i'm done. There is literally no point in grinding your gear for long term fun. It's alone GGGs fault for introducing broken shit into their game in the first place. T0 essences and not fixing life / ES / VP for years it was brought us here. Why does Vinktars even have a legacy version and didn't get the treatment of voltaxic rift?

This game is in version 2.6 and soon 3.0 and not some fucking alpha/beta shit where no one cares when your work gets wiped.

I'd rather see a buff to existing life rolls on gear, maybe create an orb to reroll just the life rolls on an item. Give all life nodes 1 or 2% more on passive tree. Remove VP completly ... so many stuff they could do.

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bhavv wrote:

What about hybrids, whats gonna happen to this?

Surely that doesnt deserve -33% ES, it would be useless otherwise.

I think hybrids are getting a buff but I cant be sure,

I certainly hope so as ive always kinda wanted the whole evasion+es thing to work well

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bhavv wrote:

What about hybrids, whats gonna happen to this?

Surely that doesnt deserve -33% ES, it would be useless otherwise.

I think hybrids are getting a buff but I cant be sure,

I certainly hope so as ive always kinda wanted the whole evasion+es thing to work well

I don't understand why GGG decided to decrease Max ES on gear and make it legacy instead of just decreasing value in ES Nodes in the Passive Tree.

If they just did that then there would been no need to create more Legacy items that ruin standard.

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k1rage wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

What about hybrids, whats gonna happen to this?

Surely that doesnt deserve -33% ES, it would be useless otherwise.

I think hybrids are getting a buff but I cant be sure,

I certainly hope so as ive always kinda wanted the whole evasion+es thing to work well

I believe hybrid armors are having their base ES value unchanged and their base EV/AR increased. At the same time, hybrid explicit mods like "X% increased armor and energy shield" are getting the same treatment as pure energy shield ones: nerfed by 33%. This will mean items without such mods are slightly better, while items that have these mods are about equal in terms of EV/AR, but weaker in terms of energy shield.

The only place where hybrid armors are really getting a buff is in the new AR/EV/ES plus life mods.