Berserk - and why this class should be immediately changed [Long] [it seems 2.3 fixes it all]

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Perq wrote:

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sidtherat wrote:

2.3.2 Aspect of Carnage

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100% increased attack damage
10% increased damage taken

This one is just bad. It is bad node damage wise (details below), it is bad node mechanics-wise, it has a drawback (as one of ~2 total nodes with drawbacks) and it is a white lie that many new players will 'buy' and then be just outraged.

100% attack damage. What does it mean? It means 3 good jewels. It means that character that has 400% combined 'increased' damage sources gains 25% 'more' damage. 25% does not sound that impressive, does it? There will be THRONGS of new players asking why their tooltip damage barely changed after speccing that node. It is a total noob trap in this regard.
Ofc there are builds - albeit most of them are 'niche' to put it mildly - that take little % increased from the tree and for them it might mean 40% 'more' damage or even more but I have troubles imagining such a build. Even Facebreaker that takes ~200%inc phys from the tree would gain little from it.

And there is a drawback. I cannot imagine WHY this bland, weak node has a drawback.

Just why?

Very bad node. Deceiving. Dangerous (drawback). Worth at best 3 jewels. Brings nothing new. This node just doesn't have a substance whatsoever

Only one I (almost) fully disagree with. 3 jewel slots, you say? When did 3 jewels slots, full of godly rolled damage jewels, became bad? Saying that it is bad at 400% increase damage is just dumb. Take 300% and take this node. There you go, you saved a lot of nodes to increase you defense, or something else.

Increased damage taken should be conditional, say, when on full life, maybe? Or maybe just drop it as a whole. 100% increased damage is nowhere near "noob trap" or "bad". It is not very creative, yes, but I imagine being a berserker ain't really a creative job. ;)

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Scold's hits, Mark confirmed. Finding source links is work though.

Even if fixing melee mana issues is normally trivial, something like this would allow branching out into more expensive skills, routing all mana leech to Mind over Matter (where Savage Hits are the main thing that make MoM suck), etc.

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eWlu wrote:

The people that say this class is good in any way are either trolls who only play ranged and dont want melee to be better or just wont accept the fact that this class compared to other ones is really weak.

The life and mana leech is pointless, get it? there is no reason to take it cause i wont have that on a boss fight where i acualy need it more than clearing large packs. Not to mention the fact that to get cloaked in savaregy you need to first take that absolutely useless node and cloaked in its self is not even that good comapred to other class nodes. Remove the condition so its acualy a worth wile node saving you from taking leech on tree (i mean why not its not even going to be close to being op or anything), and send vaal pack to mara side where it belongs because we are the ones geting hit and not the 100% movment speed ranged builds.

What is up with rite of ruin??? how is that a large class node? its conditional 5% reduced dmg ( thats acualy nothing at all ) and stun immunity that you dont need since most mara builds go by unawering stance and get it easy are supose to be large buffs? Srsly just use logic and think for a second when comparing this node that has a condition and is bad anyway vs master herbalist from pathfinder that has 0 drawbacks and gives litteraly 4 op bonnuses.

The aspect of carnage makes you take 10% incresed dmg i mean srsly ggg that should be called the aspect of suicide, we ask to have more ways of making our build tanky and you give us more dmg taken???


This class is incredibly weaker compared to any other class (well elementalist is close to second in terms of weak class) and i hope that the people who acualy say its good (not just troll) or are not begginers of poe enjoy not being able to kill merci mala while i do core mala easy on my other ascendancy class builds.

EDIT: Just remebered this. Prayer of Glory you and nearby allies have 15% increased attack, cast and movement speed if you've used a warcry in the last 4 seconds and using warcries is instant. So litteraly nvm what i said cause this is much better than the warcry skill berserker has.

EDIT 2: Removed the harsh language and changed it since ggg dosent deserve it, im just disapointed with the class never meant to insult anyone and definetly not ggg who made this amazing game i really hope that they have something planned that will give hope for this class.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

Agree, but i think second worst class - Jugg. He as Berz add nothing new or very strong as other class, so they both super weak, idd call weakest from all.

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pneuma wrote:

If the former, Berserker = lowlife attacker, end of story.