Blade Fall need to be destroyed?

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Panini_aux_olives wrote:

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Boem wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

What is ST?

Spectral throw or shockwave totem?

Going to go for the later in the current meta.

Peace,

-Boem-

I meant Spectral Throw, and I was surprised given how unpopular the skill is currently, though I could see some builds back since the buff to sword crit. It reminded me of the ST old days, that guy was clearing stuff so fast (crit build obviously), and it wasn't a CoC build.

ST have gone thru a rollercoaster right tho.
It went from super op, to base effective nerf x 2 then it's buffed a bit.

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silumit wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

Plz don't OP its too much fun

The damage is truly ridiculous.
Just now looked at MatrixFactor clearing HoGM. Granted, he is lv99 with probably opop gear but still... this is insane, his ES rarely goes lower than 80%max, and he just fkn facetanks everything. Not that he have to tank much because he just obliterates each wave in mere seconds.
Really, I pity those poor souls who bought that GM packs. Probably their creations were intended to be some sort of challenge to players trying to beat that map. Instead, they are just fodder.

Granted, he is lv99 with probably opop gear
lvl99 with op gear really should be rekting everything up with any skill choice, so really not related to bladefall

this is insane, his ES rarely goes lower than 80%max
Hes ES and defences certainly is not related to bladefall at all



Not that bladefall should not be nerfed at all, those points just didn't make sense to me and it bugged me.

CoMK + Vaal Cyclone + Bladefall(Golden) + MPD + Fortify + Added Fire Damage = So many Blades! It also looks sexy on a full Seraph set too.

Stop nerfing shit. There isnt one single op thing in this game anymore. Its becoming a snorefest. Stop worrying about other peoples builds and just play the game.

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TheAshmaker wrote:

Stop nerfing shit. There isnt one single op thing in this game anymore. Its becoming a snorefest. Stop worrying about other peoples builds and just play the game.

No op skills anymore = game becomes a snorefest.

Logic, please advice.

Peace,

-Boem-

still think its stupid to be nerfing shit like blade fall when coc exists

The only thing that needs to be changed is the damage effectiveness, 120% is too high and makes any added X damage gem too powerfull.

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Boem wrote:

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TheAshmaker wrote:

Stop nerfing shit. There isnt one single op thing in this game anymore. Its becoming a snorefest. Stop worrying about other peoples builds and just play the game.

No op skills anymore = game becomes a snorefest.

Logic, please advice.

Peace,

-Boem-

I actually like it when there is a few OP skills, so long as its not always the same skills

it gives me a reason to try different builds each league

To see just how OP bladefall is you just have to compare it to 2.0 incinerate:

2.0 incinerate (base DPS 850):
1. works with echo
2. damage is 4x tooltip (after ramp up)
3. 30% effectiveness, gets 15% more damage from anger, 5% more damage from herald

2.1 bladefall (base DPS 790)
1. works with echo
2. damage is 2-5x tooltip because of overlap (no ramp up needed)
4. 120% effectiveness
5. free resist penetration
6. Gets more damage from taste of hate (30-39%), hatred (36-43%), herald of ash (15%), atziri's promise (25% + double dip from the elemental damage from other sources)
7. can crit

You could make a strong argument that it's almost twice as strong as 2.0 incinerate (once you normalize for ability to get defense). It's kind of a joke, but it does make me giggle abusing it, just like the people abusing CoE+LL ST must have felt in 1.1. But don't worry, I won't cry about Path of Nerfs when GGG brings it in line. I think a reasonable change would be make it unable to crit, or give it 50% less damage, or some combination of both.