Why don’t we remove trading altogether?
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Well if someone was tagged as self found they would have to play solo or they would loose their tag, thats the only way to prevent people cheating
at any rate lets not turn this game into D3... I dont see any any key!
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" "Can I get a league where I don't lose my character" Yes, standard leagues exist and have not impacted the health of the game. Like another poster suggested it makes more sense to make a self-found league with the changes I proposed. In regards to xp penalties vs. trade you are comparing two things with differing roles in the game. Trade is meant to make the game easier and circumvent an rng based system, while xp penalties exist to make the game more difficult and hinder progress. Like I said before, trading and accumulating wealth isn't very difficult. It's just tedious. And I don't play self-found, and I never have because I want to strategize, create new character builds, and try them out. Action rpgs are about min-maxing, and it's impossible to do that when you don't know whether or not you will ever obtain certain items due to rng. In the current trading system and the system I am proposing you can still get gear easily. That hasn't changed, but the process and the method has. "Stop being lazy." It's a game. It should be difficult and challenging, it shouldn't feel like work. Like I said before, trading is very easy. Edit to clarify. Like I said in my initial post drop rates would need to be adjusted so that you don't spend years farming one boss for a specific item. Gear would be as attainable as it is now, it would just be more fun. Last edited by IAmNotBruceWayne#6933 on May 31, 2015, 1:57:48 PM
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" If SF players are restricted from access to trade, then the proposition to include an SF ladder would be a good idea. Like I said, my questions were based on a lack of understanding about ladders. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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" The weirdest thing is SF players feel entitled to a higher drop rate for their own special league. |
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^ some do some dont I wouldent lump them all together
I dont see any any key!
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" Why exactly should you be able to get the best gear "easily"? In your own words, getting the best items to create the best builds should be "difficult and challenging." Accumulating enough wealth to get top tier items to play top tier builds is challenging. You can do it without trading, you can do it with trading. I'm sorry, but it is what it is. At the foundation of this game is RNG. They are adding features that help you bypass -some- RNG for your benefit..and one such feature has been around in which it is the easiest to bypass RNG. Trading. And your definition of "work" is subjective. A whole lot of players don't have a qualm with the trading system or RNG because it's part of the game. It's sewn into the fibers of PoE. Do we as traders rebuke the difficulties involved with RNG and trading? No, because it's part of the challenge of the game. Some people who don't like to trade STILL TRADE because they know the benefits. Some people love trading and continue to trade and thrive and have a great time. Self-founders think they are entitled to a league of their own with higher drop rates because they rebuke a certain aspect built into the game which they deem not fun? For all your up-to-date Path of Exile news and events, check out the official Path of Exile Forum here -------- http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/
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I'd like a way for self found players to sorta compete against everyone else within each league. A self found player could participate fully in the game as they normally would with the exception of trading. No buffed drops or any additional help, you could still party with players who trade but you could only pickup items that drop for you. Anything you find or create would only be usable by your self found characters. The leader board would indicate that you play self found, possibly by an icon similar to how it shows an icon for twitch.tv streamers. This status would give players who play self found a sort of proof of doing so and encourage healthy competition among the top players.
Last edited by terrorist#7255 on May 31, 2015, 2:08:40 PM
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1. Create loot tables for all bosses
I am very much against this. It would make the game far too predictable. The concept is not new to me. I have played a couple of games in the past who uses this kind of system. It all ends up in people grinding the same monsters over and over again while the rest of the game is mostly ignored. Very boring, trust me. 2. Increase the rate of currency drops I don't mind this happening at all. It is a very welcome change. But then again divination cards will be added. 3. Add more vendor recipes I still think there are some possibilities here. There is a ton of uniques that will never get sold. Of course you can use the chance orb recipe but I have the feeling it is underused at the moment. Maybe this should be made more attractive. Example turning in 5 unidentified uniques for a random unique of the same rarity. My advice: While you still can, play the one month flashback league. It feels fresh, challenging and full of loot explosions because of all the roaming exiles, tormented ghosts, invasion bosses and nemesis rares. You will be able to gear up quickly. GGG hit the sweet spot right there. It also made me realise that regular area bosses in vanilla game hardly drop anything worthwile. In my perspective the one month leagues is the ideal starting point to enhance the vanilla game. Heart of Purity
Awarded 'Silverblade' to Talent Competition Winner 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDFO4E5OKSE POE 2 is designed primarily for console. |
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" I think people on the self found ladder would just party up with a group of well geared traders and let them carry them to the top... that is if someone really wanted to be on top of the self found ladder I dont see any any key!
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" So, practically everything self-found players are already doing right now, except with an icon to show they're self-found? That doesn't eliminate the problem self-found players often keep bringing up. :P PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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