Why don’t we remove trading altogether?

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Miská wrote:

I'll say it again and again if i have to. Could all the SF hippies please stop acting like trading is black and white. You are talking like you either need to be a full bound merchant with no time to play or play SF. Wich is just ridiculous.

The middleway is just fine for most people. If you would spend as much time advocating SF leagues as you would to try and get your mind around how to trade efficiently, you would see there is only a very small investment of time needed to keep trading to a minimum but still benefit from the existence of it.

And yes that does mean that people that are online alot, and use most of that time trading will have better items then you do, get over it. You get to play the game. They play their own game.

I have been very satisfied in PoE so far being ultra efficient with trading, getting wealthy beyond what most people would see as normal in 3 month leagues. But my first priority is always to play the game.

In my experience the people i meet that are sceptical about trading, are the ones that are just either lazy to find out what it can offer for them, or just oblivious because they are to stubborn to see what it can do for them. Just give it a try, find your own way how to make trading work for you. There are many many way to do it. It's certainly not in any way just Black and White.

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Miská wrote:

easy acces to everything in the game.

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phrazz wrote:

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Miská wrote:

easy acces to everything in the game.

I give +1 to your post as a whole, as you have many valid points, but -1000 to this quote, as this quote alone shows how clueless YOU are.

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FadeXF wrote:

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Promonex wrote:

+1

When the name calling is removed by support, or if you want to do that yourself and bump it again - then I'll respond properly to it.

Otherwise it's a big ol' "-1" from me. Which is too bad when the good points get completely drowned by name calling.

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FadeXF wrote:

Why do you guys think that adding a SFL (Self Found League) would negatively impact the main game?
-> Do you think that people would gravitate to this league and leave the other leagues feeling empty? If that is the case, then don't you think that this would mean SFL is a very popular addition to the game?

Why is it that D3 is more popular in both number of players as well as people watching it on stream? (Maje feels it's because of a sense of stability <sorry kind of paraphrasing> something that they are just used to already, it's not different... and so watching POE as an APRG is maybe a little out of their comfort zones) -> anyone else care to add to this thought?

I personally think that people enjoy playing D3 exactly for that sense of getting good items on some frequency - but also not having to trade that sense of not having to rely on someone else, but only yourself to further your characters. That sense of killing monsters and getting items from monsters, not other players. As bad as the game is... and honestly speaking: it had huge room for growth... it still scratches at least a fair share of ARPG itches for a large number of people. I think self finding is hugely enjoyable.

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spawn10459 wrote:

POE.trade destroyed this game for me. Sorry the over inflated econ ruined this game for me.

POE.trade is the be all end all for trading in this game. Instead of trading for things you need for builds your forced to trade for X currency item. Even if you don't need them


I support the removal of Person to Person trading. I still think sharing between guilds is fine.


Oh and i still think drop rats for all high end Currency needs to be increased by 50% and GGG needs to regulate Item prices AKA over inflate the market of X item to reduce the prices.

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darkmatch wrote:

People like the feeling they have when they find something valuable they don't need, being able to sell it. You get currency, your greed is satisfied and you feel good. By saving, you can achieve a goal and buy an expensive item you want yourself. By achieving that goal, you are satisfied even more, more than you ever would in Diablo 3.

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FadeXF wrote:

The OP originally wanted to remove trading outright - which I totally disagree with. Huge no vote.


What I think is a better solution would be to add a permanent SFL - up the drop rates if GGG cannot afford dev time to implement some sort of "POE loot 2.0" where loot drops are catered to how you spec your skill tree.

What's always really gotten me with GGG and their decision to implement this hugely economy focused game is the complete lack of in game ability to trade. Why develop and focus on this concept, but then have a really poor vehicle for distribution? I think I could come around to trade if it was a lot (and I mean a LOT) easier. Likely in some form of auction house where I can set the asking price, and then in the next week I'll get some currency delivered to me. But that's the thing: I've heard GGG has zero interest in some sort of auction house'esque trading system, and if they ever do implement something it's basically going to be half what our community expectations would be from it. So what's the point?