Until melee is fixed, a lot of people will not comeback.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

the irony tbh. I dont remember dying to elemental spells on my endgame melee characters, my ci witch facetanks crema boss, melees down double dominus palace and courtyard with double strike.. gmp frogs? You think she worries about gmp frogs? Thats almost as funny as Legats statement the other day when boasting the tankiness of his cloak melee "my build can facetank blue devours, I dont know many builds that can do that". I was trying to think of a melee build that couldn't do that but I don't think I've played one since devours were added. Ele spells are dangerous sure, but you talk like all melee die to these a lot and I can't remember a single time it has happened to me while playing a proper melee build properly, and I've played a lot. Thats my experience, that has substance, would you like to tell us about your experiences dying to frogs as melee to add some substance to what you are saying?

a fair statement. I personally find melee have more sheet dps but often effective dps due to travel times unless you are using flicker I suppose. Im in same boat, arc witch, does it get any better? Well theres flamedab prolif, discharge prolif, firetrap prolif... so I guess fire prolif is somewhat as effective if a little bit more sloppy on the clears I feel. CoC is insane at clearing too. Lack of movement skills compared to arc tho, that instant warp is god tier for clear speed.

Thing is my arc witch actually dies now and then, I can picture 2 or 3 occasions where she died properly in a map. All 3 of my main coc characters have a death each that I can remember. If they have an advantage over my melees its clear speed, not that my melee characters have more trouble surviving.

Im on to you m8.

The irony is that you are well aware of the problems melee face and you still don't understand why it's an issue.

I'll help you out: It's because you play standard and we do not. You have a bunch of characters that all have a death that you can remember. Start playing HC and realize why this is a problem for melee. I would actually agree with you (almost) that melee is fine for SC leagues, but that isn't the issue (nor is the issue the xp penalty).

As far as your experience, it's anecdote at best. Duelists are still largely garbage in league performance.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

Selfcast enfeeble is actually LESS likely to help you when you need it most than an autocast one would be. The slightly more mitigation IMO does not cut it.

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lolozori wrote:

Many time you can desnync in another room full of monsters. In those cases it is a little late to self cast it.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

I'm confused as to what you're saying. I always run cwdt+enfeeble on every hc build. I just don't self cast it because by the time you notice things it can be too late, where auto casting may save your life. It's only like 5-10 point difference between the two, which is noticeable but I would never be caught without an auto cast enfeeble, even if I also carried a self cast one. Thus making the self cast somewhat redundant at that point.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

No snorkle, your two melee chars from 3 leagues ago among a sea of sc characters in current leagues do not indicate that you're caught up on current events in hc. Quite the contrary

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goetzjam wrote:

What melee build are you going to do next?