Would pay 50 bucks for a 2nd Inventory slot.

I've never mentioned the word recipe as well.

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tinko92 wrote:

I've never mentioned the word recipe as well.

Ok, then what? You keep not saying saying anything other than what you're not saying.

Nothing what. Read it again and forget about the recipe.

I've read it several times now. You have a conclusion without any reasoning. You say stash tabs save time, but never say how. And you exclude recipes. So, again, how?

You would know how if you ever played without them ;)

Just imagine what you'd do if you have to use mules, from the moment someone whispers you to the "accept" button.

I play my alternate account without them just fine. So your argument is that tabs saves time over muling. I get that. But the real P2W choice isn't between stash tabs and muling, it's between keeping too much stuff and playing efficiently.

I haven't used the term P2W as well. You can't win with something of that amount of influence. But it affects the gameplay unlike any other microtransaction.

The argument of keeping more things and hoarding more items is unappealing and irrelevant to even discuss it.
And I can see that it's used quite often by the stash tab buyers.

Let me draw a hyperbole...
Knives aren't useful at all, if someone who doesn't have a knife suddenly gets it, he wouldn't know what to do with it, and would try to cut concrete and metal instead of groceries and some other appropriate things.

Why would someone suddenly start hoarding all sorts of items if he would have more stash tabs if muling is as efficient as having stash tabs?

"You are paying for convenience", of course, but let us pay for convenience and buy something else, like an Alchemy orb.

So if he's not hoarding, what is he saving and how will he get value for it? And is the value he gets the same as it would be if it was not in his stash?

I'm not saying people suddenly start hoarding if they have space. I'm saying people are not gaining any advantage for having the extra space because whatever value they can get from that item, they can get with less space. If the item doesn't have value to anybody other than the person saving the item (which is the vast majority of items saved), having that item in extra stash tabs gains you nothing.

No idea, not important here.
The value is the same, however, time is not.

No, I haven't said that you specifically say that people would start hoarding shit, it's just an argument used quite often by stash tab buyers.

I do agree, because it is how it is, it's not a matter of opinion. But, like I've said, the time matters.

Here, let me repeat myself with this quote:

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Just imagine what you'd do if you have to use mules, from the moment someone whispers you to the "accept" button.

And can you compare it to the stash tab variant?

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tinko92 wrote:

No idea, not important here.
The value is the same, however, time is not.

No, I haven't said that you specifically say that people would start hoarding shit, it's just an argument used quite often by stash tab buyers.

I do agree, because it is how it is, it's not a matter of opinion. But, like I've said, the time matters.

Here, let me repeat myself with this quote:

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Just imagine what you'd do if you have to use mules, from the moment someone whispers you to the "accept" button.

And can you compare it to the stash tab variant?

Thats easy. I'd get the item for sale from my stash. Because id use mules for stuff I want to "hoard" for myself and future builds. If I have something valuable enough to trade, I'd keep it in my stash. It doesn't take much room unless you have a lot of those types of items. And if you do, your price is too high because you should be selling them quickly.

But if I did have an item to trade on a mule, I'd open another instance of PoE, log in with that character, and whisper the other player with a link of the item followed by a party invite. If anybody thinks they'll lose a trade over that minute you're logging into the other character, they haven't traded much at all. I don't trade much, but most of the time I want to buy something, I whisper that player and have to wait for them to get out of a map. Same if somebody whispers me...usually they have to wait a few minutes for me to get out of a map. I have taken too long to get out of a map before and the other person got the item from somebody else. Now that I think about it, it'd be quicker to trade from a mule than to wait the time it takes to finish a map. I guess that isn't true if you're just sitting in town waiting for somebody to whisper you. But I like to spend most of my time actually playing.