RMT Wins. Fatality!

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ressiv wrote:

I could be RMT'ing items with an account named CCR5 as we speak.

you can

but then any reasonable anti-rmt person will go search _my_ trade history,
_my_ stash and he will not find anything

i have legacy facebreakers
try to guess stats and sell it in my name

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Alea wrote:

the player is listed as banned or just deleted ? :)

it is "banned" in red letters
forum search can be bugged when searching by account name specifically

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DogFaceNoSpace wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

I still think the impact of RMT on the game is vastly overrated, especially by some less wealthy individuals around here. Nobody has been able to prove otherwise, and I really doubt that johnkeys can do it. The way he phrased his opening post tells me he's rather fishing for attention here than interested in a serious discussion about RMT.

For the impact of RMT just look at the average RMT website and what they have in stock.

Wrong.

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mrpetrov wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

This is exactly why GGG doesn't want to respond to such questions, people read way too much into every bit of an answer :P I can only talk about my experience with the economy, and what I see is that it is fairly stable and inflation is at a level which is to be expected. RMT definitely has an impact on it, but imo it's a rather small one, which means GGG is doing a good job at fighting it.

I agree with your first statement. I edited out my post above to remove my supposition as to GGG's view just before you posted this reply, as my supposition was unfounded and potentially antagonistic.

I don't agree with your second statement however, as you know.:)

I'm no sure what basis your "expectation" of inflation comes from. I know where my economic experience comes from.

P.

My expectation comes from comparing PoE to other free economy F2P games. I think RL experience with economics (which I also have) doesn't help much, we can't really measure anything reliably because of lack of information. But I know if RMT was as rampant as johnkeys claimed, the economy in PoE would look a lot worse.

I don't know why people fear inflation so much.

Just a thought:
Imagine the in-game economy inflates so much that a leveling unique can be sold for 10 Chaos.
They are not that rare. Now you got that 10 Chaos but maybe can't buy too much from it.
What can you do? Use it of course!

If the prices skyrocket due to inflation of any kind ("RMT induced" or not) people will value the intrinsic crafting value of currency against the trading value of currency like they do now but come to a different conclusion naturally. The currency design itself diminishes inflation. If people burn their currency for more crafting again due to the reduced trading value, we will see the usual effects of a currency sink.


That all said, "RMT effects" are not really worrysome but they are bad for competition and GGG values sporty competition a bit higher than many other F2P developers. That doesn't mean that they are able to run a support team 24/7 solely on RMT hunt.

As seen here they need to keep the pleb in order sometimes so they don't fling the shit on each other. Aside all the technical and account support they need to supply as well as bug reports they need to forward.

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CCR5 wrote:

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Alea wrote:

the player is listed as banned or just deleted ? :)

it is "banned" in red letters
forum search can be bugged when searching by account name specifically

Easiest to just go to your own profile and replace your account name with the [search name] in the web address.

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Xavderion wrote:

My expectation comes from comparing PoE to other free economy F2P games. I think RL experience with economics (which I also have) doesn't help much, we can't really measure anything reliably because of lack of information. But I know if RMT was as rampant as johnkeys claimed, the economy in PoE would look a lot worse.

I have experience with other free economy F2P games and the impact of RMT was enormous. At a certain point nobody even farmed anymore.

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dlrr wrote:

ccr5, your work in identifying these guys sounds like it would be helpful for support to act on. good if you could share those with them! :)

whatever "your work" is in public view anyway
same accounts
same topics

every league
like a clockwork

just to prove a point
another "hiding" invasion player selling "exclusive" top and mid tier uniques

30 seconds to find one of his uniques on XYZ
30 seconds to verify socket colors, links and stats

account name equals rmt forum name

q.e.d

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Xavderion wrote:

I still think the impact of RMT on the game is vastly overrated, especially by some less wealthy individuals around here. Nobody has been able to prove otherwise, and I really doubt that johnkeys can do it. The way he phrased his opening post tells me he's rather fishing for attention here than interested in a serious discussion about RMT.

Yep, RMT is a myth, it never happened. Much like the moon landing.

Botting also never happens because GGG's "super secret antibot system"™ actually catches the large scale botting operations, not only the average kid who doesn't have a clue what they are doing.

[Removed by Support] is just a friendly fan site community that helps honest players trade their items for in-game orbs and not something imaginary called fools gold.

The rmt sites you can access with a simple google search don't exist and are not used by anyone.

People that pump out perfect rares and brag openly about going through hundreds of eternals per week are just very good at the game and at life in general and we should worship them.

believe