I understand now why multiboxing is "excepted"

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Birdulon wrote:

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zekerferc wrote:

Why I think multiboxing should not be allowed ?

1. Auras. You can have 10 auras without mana spending.
2. 4 characters using cold spells. Freeze all the time.
3. Totem & minion spam to distract mobs.
4. Curses.

No exploit my ass.

Yes ban partying

Exactly my point. hating on Muti boxing is like hating on everyone that plays in a party.

@ zekerferc: I understand wee your coming from. Personally I am and always have been against any type of hack or exploit. I have never even used any types of mods for any games. EVER!! I like to play a game the way the devs intended it to be played. Simply install the game and play it. nothing else needed. And i found by playing games like this your are less likely to get bored and get maximum enjoyment from a game. But to understand something better one really do have to try it. So if you have never tried this multi boxing than well I don't think you will understand it completely. There is no hacks involved. No bot scripts. but anywho. and like I said earlier you DO NOT even need any kind of program to run multi games of PoE.

Would you call it an exploit, or have a problem if I got 5 friends to join my party, and do the exact same thing multi boxers would do (that is join an instance and sit at the entrance to give me more loot)? No you most likely wouldn't, nor would you have a problem with those 5 friends helping me, but choosing to give me all the loot. You wouldn't consider this "flooding" the economy, and you wouldn't consider it bad for the game in any way. And as I understand it being in a party makes all the mobs tougher (only in hp I think? not sure), so at higher difficulties this would likely slow you down more than anything if your only goal was items. The aura thing is ridiculous as most have stated it is near impossible to actively control multiple characters in this game, and those who can, those who have the skill deserve the loot they get, which is essentially what GGG have said on the matter in an interview before.

Even if multi boxers have an negative effect on the economy (not saying they do), the overall effect would be so small as to not be worth banning acounts over. Very few people multi box and at most you could have 6 characters at once if you even have the PC to run it, not to mention you need the required patience and skill to control them effectively.

The balance for multiboxing is already integrated: mobs have what, more HP right? Derp.

Quality of life buff for players.

End of story.

Multi Boxing may be unethical but I don't think that's what's going to wreck the economy of this game, but rather organized groups of people who help each other rapidly spawn 6 man dungeons/bosses. I saw a video where 6 guys were all farming the same mid level boss, one guy would clear to some click event boss and open a portal, the other 5 pop in they start the boss and the 5 leave to start their own copy. They were killing the boss about every 1-2 minutes each with all the quantity/quality gear maxed out for huge piles of orbs/items.

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Time2Kill3 wrote:

@ zekerferc: I understand wee your coming from. Personally I am and always have been against any type of hack or exploit. I have never even used any types of mods for any games. EVER!! I like to play a game the way the devs intended it to be played. Simply install the game and play it. nothing else needed. And i found by playing games like this your are less likely to get bored and get maximum enjoyment from a game. But to understand something better one really do have to try it. So if you have never tried this multi boxing than well I don't think you will understand it completely. There is no hacks involved. No bot scripts. but anywho. and like I said earlier you DO NOT even need any kind of program to run multi games of PoE.

Unlike you, I used hacks so I guess I understand this more than you.
Why do people use bots, hacks, exploits?
To get advantage over legit players without too much effort yes?
Is multiboxing makes game easier than normal party play ( unless you have friends with teamplay spirit ) or solo ? Most likely yes.
Therefore, multiboxing is kind of an exploit? Yes in my opinion and many others.

May I ask you why do you use multiboxing? Why bother all the shit? Don't you think this gives you an unfair advantage against normal players?

You can say this is an a-rpg, you shouldnt interfere what im doing. No sir, it affects economy, therefore it affects me. And who says it does not harm economy is saying bs im sorry, some person bought an end game item for 90 gcp in just week and there were very high offers. Maybe the buyer is not using multiboxing but you know you can get that amount of gcp's using multiboxing.

You people need to understand this. Multiboxing is not just simply playing 1 character but controlling 6 characters at the same time. There are many ways to abuse this. You can level or hunt for items MUCH faster than normal play.

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zekerferc wrote:

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Time2Kill3 wrote:

@ zekerferc: I understand wee your coming from. Personally I am and always have been against any type of hack or exploit. I have never even used any types of mods for any games. EVER!! I like to play a game the way the devs intended it to be played. Simply install the game and play it. nothing else needed. And i found by playing games like this your are less likely to get bored and get maximum enjoyment from a game. But to understand something better one really do have to try it. So if you have never tried this multi boxing than well I don't think you will understand it completely. There is no hacks involved. No bot scripts. but anywho. and like I said earlier you DO NOT even need any kind of program to run multi games of PoE.

Unlike you, I used hacks so I guess I understand this more than you.
Why do people use bots, hacks, exploits?
To get advantage over legit players without too much effort yes?
Is multiboxing makes game easier than normal party play ( unless you have friends with teamplay spirit ) or solo ? Most likely yes.
Therefore, multiboxing is kind of an exploit? Yes in my opinion and many others.

May I ask you why do you use multiboxing? Why bother all the shit? Don't you think this gives you an unfair advantage against normal players?

You can say this is an a-rpg, you shouldnt interfere what im doing. No sir, it affects economy, therefore it affects me. And who says it does not harm economy is saying bs im sorry, some person bought an end game item for 90 gcp in just week and there were very high offers. Maybe the buyer is not using multiboxing but you know you can get that amount of gcp's using multiboxing.

You people need to understand this. Multiboxing is not just simply playing 1 character but controlling 6 characters at the same time. There are many ways to abuse this. You can level or hunt for items MUCH faster than normal play.

Unlike you I do understand hacks but don't use them. Any economy for all games does not interfere with my game play in the least. In this game or D3. Any items i find and don't need go to anyone of the 20 to 30 people on my TS server. And anyone that do choose to use hacks does not affect my game play at all. If you choose to be wrapped up in other peoples business and how they play a game is rather pathetic. none of this affects the economy. none of this affects the enjoyment of MY game play.
I choose not to use hacks and play with a good group of guys that I can trust to give items to and not sell them. I choose not to multi box. But most of all. I CHOOSE TO HAVE FUN!!!!

@time2kill3

You are just 1 person. This game is not created just for you. Just because you dont want to choose to interfere with economy and having fun, does not mean everybody is doing same like you.

I love trading. My gameplay depends on it. Its my choosing. I dont think its pathetic. Im pretty sure most people got their gear from trading.

You cannot guarantee that every multiboxing user wont choose to screw the economy. Hell I even gave you an example. 91 gcp in 1 week. I was not interested in buying that end game weapon but Im pretty sure this will affect me when I will be looking for improving my gear.

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zekerferc wrote:

@time2kill3

You are just 1 person. This game is not created just for you. Just because you dont want to choose to interfere with economy and having fun, does not mean everybody is doing same like you.

I love trading. My gameplay depends on it. Its my choosing. I dont think its pathetic. Im pretty sure most people got their gear from trading.

You cannot guarantee that every multiboxing user wont choose to screw the economy. Hell I even gave you an example. 91 gcp in 1 week. I was not interested in buying that end game weapon but Im pretty sure this will affect me when I will be looking for improving my gear.

I am just one person? This game is not created for just me? well ant you just full of yourself. all this time I thought all games were created for just me. I thought I was the only human in existence. I thank you for showing me the light.

who said anything about trading being pathetic? You seem to be the one overly concerned how they choose to play the game. choosing to be wrapped up in what people do is pathetic. saying I think this game is created just for me is VERY pathetic. grow up guy and get over yourself.

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wxyjac wrote:

I have done multibox when playing d2 before, and it's exactly not what you describe. There's many way to multibox, normal window's different user account can multibox (though it takes a very long time to switch), and there are also legit programs out there that can multibox (some work/job requires you to multibox).

Multibox just means opening two clients of PoE while only one person is playing. There's no way it will automatically give you character movement, or even click. What you were describing, just like that silly picture above, is not multibox, but called botting.

Your ignorance despite claiming knowledge is astounding.