Appeal to GGG – Mana leech
" I don't even know to respond to this post, your counter argument is that your main from LAST season without all of the changes to mana leech could sustain his attacks and running mana leech + mana regen/clarity was a bad thing because it was overpowered? What the hell else your suppose to do to regen mana? Only reply on pots? Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Mar 7, 2014, 2:18:15 PM
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" My tree before the reset : http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBAv4EBw5ID8QQexEvEVARlhVQFdcWQBcvF1QdFB8CIoEnqSlPKwosvy0fL282xTrYO3w74ULDQ2NHBkyzTdhQMFXWVmNY9VqmXfJfKl9qY0Nk52ZPZp5tGXBScLtw1XFNfll_xoCkgUmBb4KbhX2GrobRiEKIa4w2jHaOPI5kj0aZmprPnaOdxJ48nqGio6cIpyuyOLQ4tMW297b6tzG4yrvWvjrAUcEAwcXB88Lsw23VT9eG2CTZE9rd2xrbXtzH3nffhOL344TkIuUZ62Pr5OwY7DjyHfLh8-r1S_em-tL79fyr fkxLegacySpectral : lvl 97 Raider ST HowA [Legacy] fkxBreachSlayer : lvl 95 Slayer Blade Flurry [Breach] fkxCrockett : lvl 94 Saboteur Ice Trap [Perendus] fkxRampage : lvl 94 Witch Fireball [Rampage] fkxShadow : lvl 95 Shadow FP/CI [open beta] Last edited by fkxShadow#6629 on Mar 7, 2014, 2:23:07 PM
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" Well first off I wouldn't try to 6l a spell with 90 mana. That's just idiotic. 2ndly Big huge dmg spells are not meant to be spammed. The design intention was for them to be nukes to be used sparingly. If you think you should be able to sustain continuous cast of the hardest hitting abilities in the game then that is your problem right there. 3rd If I were to make a caster I would BUILD to sustain the mana. Not depend on 1 thing that may or may not get nerfed. This day and age EVERY company nerfs things. I am sorry that your chars got destroyed. But, after the last few years of how companies 'balance' their games (all companies) then you have to expect that this type of thing is going to happen. You get the most fun out of things as you can. If one day it's gone then you'll always have the good times. And if your character getting destroyed puts you off of the game then that is fine. But you can't say it was unexpected. " Uhm .... im confused about what you don't understand. Here let me put into context. I could NOT cap my mana regen from leech. meaning that the current changes do not effect me in any way. And I didn't even carry a mana pot. I built to sustain the mana with gear and passives. I'm not saying anything is overpowered. I am saying that relying on 1 mechanic to make your build work is a bad idea. At some point it will get destroyed Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!! Last edited by Juggla1570#0315 on Mar 7, 2014, 2:28:38 PM
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Ofc these things happen from time to time
We phys attack users can't really be compared to casters, though And, as a levelling crit bower/wander (havent decided yet) I must say there is something very very wrong with leech atm. Man I'm leeching like less than 1 hp per second from a 1% leech from phys. It just doesn't feel right :/ Also, I DO have mind drinker, but it doesnt do alot (at least currently) I haven't played in a while, just wanted to check what it's all about. I do like the ambush mechanics. But I think I'll just skip this TBH. Have a nice one folks. The Hyperbomber for 2.6: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1879383
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Base mana regen needs to be looked at, while a mana version of VP should be introduced.
Also, mana pots abolished cause no one has ever liked using them. Ever. IGN: Asser, AssDelver, Assphobic, AnointedAss, BetrayedByMyAss, CrackedAss, FracturedAss, FulcrumedUpMyAss, ImpaledAss, IncursionOfTheAss, WarForTheAss, UnleashTheAss, ScreamingAsshole, SwampAssKing, Yui
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" I'm fine using them in the beginning, but as one grow in power one would expect to be able to spam (within limits). ARPGS are about getting more powerful, not getting your butt kicked 24/7. Man, real life does that to me xD The Hyperbomber for 2.6: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1879383
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" Except dicharge, I know no "Big huge dmg spells". Except with Shav (then life build), spells sucks. But if at lvl 95 I can't sustain continuous FP on maps 77-78, then I can't play. That's exactly the problem I am talking about. During that time, OP phys builds have 40-80k dps (10 time more than me) and are immune to phys reflect... And not nerfed at all about leech or about anything else. so huge dmg... For comparison my Duelist have 190-319 with 1.62 ais weapon, + tons of "increased phys dmg" in passive... "Big huge dmg spells", just lmao! fkxLegacySpectral : lvl 97 Raider ST HowA [Legacy] fkxBreachSlayer : lvl 95 Slayer Blade Flurry [Breach] fkxCrockett : lvl 94 Saboteur Ice Trap [Perendus] fkxRampage : lvl 94 Witch Fireball [Rampage] fkxShadow : lvl 95 Shadow FP/CI [open beta] Last edited by fkxShadow#6629 on Mar 7, 2014, 3:11:43 PM
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" Yeah, though for that purpose I just use clarity if an int class or take the BM keystone for a while if a str class. I've never really enjoyed running rangers though, cause they depend heavily on the mana leech gem or using flasks, neither of which really allow for a very powerful 'growth'. You're either out of mana or are at your cap. IGN: Asser, AssDelver, Assphobic, AnointedAss, BetrayedByMyAss, CrackedAss, FracturedAss, FulcrumedUpMyAss, ImpaledAss, IncursionOfTheAss, WarForTheAss, UnleashTheAss, ScreamingAsshole, SwampAssKing, Yui Last edited by Wooser69#4318 on Mar 7, 2014, 3:09:24 PM
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" What a crock of shit. What 7 - 8 years with out any changes to leech and now it becomes a necessary balance change. Total bullshit, if you want to be a fan boy and buy into the company propaganda line go for it, but this is a NERF. NO hiding behind the bullshit "balance" phrase this is a nerf to slow ubber crit based builds down. And as for other company "balance" based changes tell me when either D2 or D3 nerfed its leech basis. Answer never, infact, they encourage continous play ak whirlwind barb and tempest rush monk builds. Last edited by bazzaq#6785 on Mar 7, 2014, 3:17:00 PM
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It amazes me how some people want everything to be a chore.
Games are about fun. Forcing every build to grab 5+ regen/mana nodes is retarded. It really is. A melee guy with 50 intelligent swinging a hammer should be able to get by without a bunch of arcane focus. There's already enough prerequisite stuff like life and defenses... keep going in this direction, and soon there won't be a tree. We'll all just have the same build. My issue with Mana Leech being so bad is that it is a support gem. You're losing a support slot to sustain your skill - this alone should be enough for high physical builds. This is a slot that could potentially be multiplying my damage, if I am dedicating it to leeching mana it should do a damn good job. I'm surprised a lot of casters have issues, with a decent level clarity and some mana focus (I am a little more okay with casters needing it) you should be able to spam high level spells no problem. Overall, making character building more tedious and less fun is... counterproductive, to put it nicely. Team Won
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