My problem with poe.xyz and why do I think it fucked the economy

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ShaeG wrote:

Whoever paid 10ex for Thief's Torment has down syndrome.

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Yohanu wrote:

Haven't read entire thread, but my opinion is that a Stable market is BORING. I like obfuscated trade because it adds another metagame.

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vaiNe_ wrote:

In my opinion POEs fucked up economy is the reason why poe.xyz exists in the first place. :)

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Peterlerock wrote:

Can only tell it from my own perspective:

1. In the beginning, all is shit.
You don't find anything you need, you have no currency whatsoever, and you regularly come across obstacles you can't overcome or have to zerg through...

2. Because of resisting the desire to craft, stacked up some orbs. Traded them all to chaos.
Hooray, now I have a little bit of money.
Enough to buy 5L chest and 250 DpS weapon, ready to finish camapign and play maps.
All money gone though.
And the bitter feeling I would have never achieved that step on my own.

3. Playing what feels like forever, maybe finding 1-2 items that are useful for my toon.
Maybe find ~20 items that look like they could sell for some chaos.
Random chat spamming only consumes time, and when I finally sell something, I always have the certainty I was lowballed.
Next step in gearing requires me to have ~1 ex per item at least.

4. Finally reaching ladder position. Now my shop thread actually attracts people because I appear "online" on poe.xyz.is.
A lot more sales, I can even dictate prices instead of having to accept whatever buyers throw at me.
I stack up a few more chaos.
Trading feels kinda ok now. But own item progression is still limited, I can't pay more than 1 ex per item, this is only enough for ok...ish items, not for "real upgrades"... and I have to buy maps to progress in leveling because I keep running out of them all the time.

5. Playing what feels like forever without any progress.
Next step in gearing requires me to have ~10 ex per item at least.
Feel like I will never get there, out of pure frustration, start yoloing currency on items. Leads nowhere.

6. Randomly stumbling over a Mon'tregul's. Sells for 15 ex. Crazy. Finally I can afford an item I like (in my case a "bringer of rain").

7. Playing what feels like forever without any progress.
Next step in gearing requires me to have ~50 ex at least.
Feel like I will never get there, out of pure frustration, start yoloing currency on items. Maybe I will make a 6-Link (no, I don't), maybe I yolo a 400 DpS weapon (no, I don't), maybe I chance a Soultaker or Ming's Heart (no, I don't).
Can trade a bit, but not anywhere near the possibility of aquiring next level items.
Playing maps costs more currency than I get out of it, leveling is so slow now I pretty much gave up on it, so... why should I play on?

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While I really love the game, item progression is a pain in the butt!
It is so f...ing slow, random and expensive.

And when you finally make progress, it doesn't even feel rewarding, because you know it was just luck. Great.