My problem with poe.xyz and why do I think it fucked the economy

OK I'll tell you why some of you say that "OH POE has a FU@#*& up economy" that's why trading is Worst.

For example "Bringer of Rain" Nightmare Bascinet
Before this would go for about 4-5 ex.

Armour: (423 to 564)
Evasion Rating: (609 to 812)
Requires Level 67, 62 Str, 85 Dex
Gems in this item are Supported by level 18 Melee Physical Damage
Gems in this item are supported by level 18 Faster Attacks
Gems in this item are Supported by level 18 Blind
Adds 20–30 Physical Damage
(200 to 300)% increased Armour and Evasion
+(200 to 220) to maximum Life
10% chance to gain an Endurance Charge when you Block
Extra Gore
Can't use Chest armour
15% Block Chance

This helmet is a dream helmet for any Combat Build char it has everything that you need from Defence to Damage and Speed! WoW and it beats armor by 1 slot. Because this would make 7 slots. But alas there is a negative I cannot use Chest Armor...

And then an idea comes to the mind. What would be a perfect build when using this item? Hmmm...

Plan and create a new build that can benefit using the B.O.R BOOM! PERFECT! I create a build that benefits B.O.R I am Awesome!!

And then you reach High Level you party with 5-6 people lets say 4 of them are new to the game. You go to the hardest maps.
You Fought Bosses You Survive and you Killed the Boss. And the other 4 new players are killed easily they don't even stand a chance from the mobs. And they look at your Char, WOW that is a good char They ask for a link for a Build. And then they start a new one and then follow. What was the main Item of your char? The Item was?... You guest IT B.O.R. And then Oh I want that Item. And then they Buy and Buy and Buy... And then suddenly B.O.R Is an item want by many. Until 1 person comes to the point why would I sell this for 5 ex? This item is wanted I will sell it for 15ex no one can judge. Then sell for 15ex everybody complain. then another person really wanted the item, he bought it for 15ex then BAM! Prices RISE! End of Story!

Do you wanna know why GGG created this unique and weird skill tree? Because they don't want you to follow the same skills Over and Over again. They want a player to be unique and can come up with something different that can use the other items that they put in the game. If you keep following builds the main item for that build will be so wanted sooner or later it will come to the point that it will be so expensive for a player to afford. And then you say "OH POE has a FU@#*& up economy"
PLEASE GGG I WANT MY GUILD WAR!
Last edited by sam_handler#4391 on Feb 12, 2014, 9:08:46 AM
TL;DR ^ Of the guy above ^ - copy cats - no unique builds - everybody wants to be imba - flavor of the month - not enough build enabling items - high demand / low supply - ggg did this
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sam_handler wrote:
But alas there is a negative I cannot use Chest Armor...

Rather than saying "cannot use chest piece", I'd say "in fact wear your chest piece on the head and >can't use helmet<"... ;)

*You get your 6-Link without wasting many fusings (wouldn't consider it a real 7-Link as Blind is nice but never used outside of BoR).
*200+ Life (this alone offsets the drawback)
*Defenses of an ok chestpiece (~600 armor, 800 ev)
*insane 15% block (get to 75% without greater amount of points spent into passive block chance)
*adds physical damage (always great)

You don't have to be a genius to realize that BoR is great.

You can cry about "copy cats" as long as you want, and with many builds this is true, but BoR is so obviously good that I think it's the wrong place here.

And you can still buy it for ~6-7 ex in Domination.

3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
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Peterlerock wrote:


*You get your 6-Link without wasting many fusings (wouldn't consider it a real 7-Link as Blind is nice but never used outside of BoR).



Blind is one of the most powerful support gems in the game, bar none.

Any summoner worth anything will have this on skeletons as well.
Absolutely no question.
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Peterlerock wrote:
And you can still buy it for ~6-7 ex in Domination.


You do realize this league is about to end right?!
PLEASE GGG I WANT MY GUILD WAR!
Last edited by sam_handler#4391 on Feb 14, 2014, 9:59:38 PM
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Peterlerock wrote:
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sam_handler wrote:
But alas there is a negative I cannot use Chest Armor...

Rather than saying "cannot use chest piece", I'd say "in fact wear your chest piece on the head and >can't use helmet<"... ;)

*You get your 6-Link without wasting many fusings (wouldn't consider it a real 7-Link as Blind is nice but never used outside of BoR).
*200+ Life (this alone offsets the drawback)
*Defenses of an ok chestpiece (~600 armor, 800 ev)
*insane 15% block (get to 75% without greater amount of points spent into passive block chance)
*adds physical damage (always great)

You don't have to be a genius to realize that BoR is great.

You can cry about "copy cats" as long as you want, and with many builds this is true, but BoR is so obviously good that I think it's the wrong place here.

And you can still buy it for ~6-7 ex in Domination.



You know what your right! You don't have to be a genius in order to figure that out. And you do realize that I am using BoR here as an example right? why some people always complain that over priced BoR is an example of why POE economy is fucked. Now realizing all of this... Takes more than just being a GENIUS...
PLEASE GGG I WANT MY GUILD WAR!
Last edited by sam_handler#4391 on Feb 14, 2014, 10:18:20 PM
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gr00grams wrote:
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Peterlerock wrote:


*You get your 6-Link without wasting many fusings (wouldn't consider it a real 7-Link as Blind is nice but never used outside of BoR).



Blind is one of the most powerful support gems in the game, bar none.

Any summoner worth anything will have this on skeletons as well.
Absolutely no question.


100% agree. I have used blind + flame totem (as a sort of support skill) on every character I have rolled without exception... It's that good. As such, monsters that use physical just can't kill me anymore.
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Last edited by Antnee#4468 on Feb 14, 2014, 11:14:45 PM
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sam_handler wrote:
OK I'll tell you why some of you say that "OH POE has a FU@#*& up economy" that's why trading is Worst.

For example "Bringer of Rain" Nightmare Bascinet
Before this would go for about 4-5 ex.

Armour: (423 to 564)
Evasion Rating: (609 to 812)
Requires Level 67, 62 Str, 85 Dex
Gems in this item are Supported by level 18 Melee Physical Damage
Gems in this item are supported by level 18 Faster Attacks
Gems in this item are Supported by level 18 Blind
Adds 20–30 Physical Damage
(200 to 300)% increased Armour and Evasion
+(200 to 220) to maximum Life
10% chance to gain an Endurance Charge when you Block
Extra Gore
Can't use Chest armour
15% Block Chance

This helmet is a dream helmet for any Combat Build char it has everything that you need from Defence to Damage and Speed! WoW and it beats armor by 1 slot. Because this would make 7 slots. But alas there is a negative I cannot use Chest Armor...

And then an idea comes to the mind. What would be a perfect build when using this item? Hmmm...

Plan and create a new build that can benefit using the B.O.R BOOM! PERFECT! I create a build that benefits B.O.R I am Awesome!!

And then you reach High Level you party with 5-6 people lets say 4 of them are new to the game. You go to the hardest maps.
You Fought Bosses You Survive and you Killed the Boss. And the other 4 new players are killed easily they don't even stand a chance from the mobs. And they look at your Char, WOW that is a good char They ask for a link for a Build. And then they start a new one and then follow. What was the main Item of your char? The Item was?... You guest IT B.O.R. And then Oh I want that Item. And then they Buy and Buy and Buy... And then suddenly B.O.R Is an item want by many. Until 1 person comes to the point why would I sell this for 5 ex? This item is wanted I will sell it for 15ex no one can judge. Then sell for 15ex everybody complain. then another person really wanted the item, he bought it for 15ex then BAM! Prices RISE! End of Story!

Do you wanna know why GGG created this unique and weird skill tree? Because they don't want you to follow the same skills Over and Over again. They want a player to be unique and can come up with something different that can use the other items that they put in the game. If you keep following builds the main item for that build will be so wanted sooner or later it will come to the point that it will be so expensive for a player to afford. And then you say "OH POE has a FU@#*& up economy"
All these posts are about economy, money, trading.God damn its a just a game.We should have fun, we should find our items, craft our items.When i first see these orbs,i thought ''Yeeah finally no gold game and wtf can i craft my items with all those alts,regals,fusing,jewels,chroms,ex wtf man there are many option to keep u busy..But when i got in game, all those thoughts were changed.If i can not use an ex on an item before i become super hiper rich,what the fuck is use of it?Buy,sell,trade,buy,sell,trade...Same thing over and over and over again..I only like to kill monsters over and over again.I found my Soul taker in a tempel map from a rare monster and that's the moment for me.That feeling must be the core element of game.Crafting a nice chest or boots..And again when i made my first and one 6L i ve said thats it,i made it.They can even make harder to get a 6L or nice crafted items,I dont care unless they do something about orb drop rate.Item drop rate is good.You need to grind for it and thats the goal of game..Fck economy or other money related thing.And thats a big lie that we remove gold from game and add orbs.Yeah what is the difference between those?We should talk about end game in poe instead of these.Guys do u realize that we pay to play end game..If you dont ve maps or currency to roll-buy these maps,game becomes immediately pointless.I understand gear checking.If u can not handel diffuclty level then you should not play that level.But when if you can and at the same time you can not afford to play 77-78 maps,what's the point of the game?Instead of orb sink on maps,wouldnt it be better orb sink on items such as crafting your own item?

And yeah its not about seller, all about buyer.One of my mates from guild sold a ring around 30 ex and that ring was most 5 ex.All he did is jsut put his item on forum trade section and he did not put b/o on it.Buyer just offered 30 ex for it and took it.So what would u do?WOuldnt u sell it?
ing:the_melkor
The items are worth what the buyers want to pay. This is not rocket science.
If some dude puts up an item for 70ex because he saw others do it, and no one wants to buy it- guess what, its not worth 70ex and will sit and rot in his chest until he lowers the price - If someone buys it, it is worth 70ex, simply.

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