There is nothing hardcore about PoE

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Xzonez wrote:

I can come across as agressive at first and i should have probably worded my threadstart better, maybe its because english is not my native language since im from Sweden or its probably because thats how i usually act.

I feel ya, I'm not a native either so sometimes I make a lot of spelling mistakes and I guess I often seem more "agressive" than I want to be, because it's hard to have finely shaded opinions in a foreign language.

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tinko92 wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

GGG calls this game hardcore because you have to invest a lot of time to max out your characters in terms of level and gear. Feel free to make up your own definition of hardcore.

Gambling to level is the right term.

As I told you before, you're not required to 'gamble' to reach level 100 :) That's not even the topic.

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Boem wrote:

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2/ "I quit this dumpster game and I want a refund".

Ah a classic!

Refund my 0 $$$ fee and doa it naows GGG!

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I so hate you right now lol

:D i laughed tbh. OP has got a sense of humor :p.
Now make a drawing for him, he showed you his now show him yours...


@op i know you don't mean anything bad with presenting your point of view, sadly these forums are not inhabited by people that can co-exist with multiple points of view :p.

I've made the same thread like you, just to warn people to not get confused by this term and not be disappointed by there own assumptions, i was also bashed for mentioning that :').

But to be honest threads like this should be repeated once in a while :), just so new comers know in this game the "hardcore" stands for time investment and not player-related reflexes etc. It's only fair to warn them from disappointment if they expect something difference.

Sadly the economy depends on scamming "noobs" out of there wealth, so you will not get a lot of sympathy for doing this.

Peace

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:D i laughed tbh. OP has got a sense of humor :p.
Now make a drawing for him, he showed you his now show him yours... "

I can do it for her=




" But to be honest threads like this should be repeated once in a while :), just so new comers know in this game the "hardcore" stands for time investment and not player-related reflexes etc. It's only fair to warn them from disappointment if they expect something difference.

Sadly the economy depends on scamming "noobs" out of there wealth, so you will not get a lot of sympathy for doing this. "

Exactly, people need to realise that when ggg writes that poe is hardcore all it means is investing alot of time through either mind numbing grind or scamming new players through trading to accumulate wealth.

If you realise this and actually play poe how its meant to be then your in the ballpark.

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Xzonez wrote:

Also, people need to stop complaining that self found doesnt work in PoE, its ridicilous. PoE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A SELF FOUND GAME, IT IS MADE FOR PEOPLE THAT ENJOY PLAYING IN TEAMS AND ACCUMULATING WEALTH THROUGH TRADING. Get with the program or get out, your a bunch of sad whiners.

Then PoE isn't an ARPG, it's an MMORPG LOL. This one paragraph made me laugh to be fair, ridiculous statement.. 'ACCEPT THE GAME IS WRONG OR GO' The attitude of people on this forum is amazing, such blind idiots.

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zachatta wrote:

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Xzonez wrote:

" But seriously, someone had it right when they said video games in general are not hardcore. Go brag about your PC playing skills at your workplace, see how much recognition you get. "

I do get alot of recognition from my workplace since i work within IT. I'm also impressed when likeminded people post something that is considered hardcore in a game and im not afraid to say it.

hahaha

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It sounds to me that your just jealous

hahaha

EDIT: Oh you forgot to call me a wallet warrior,

also please give me a lecture about how REAL ARPGs have a good concept of carrot on a stick or something of that nature. Got to stay true to the flavor of the month rhetoric.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJJL90YBi8

Im not going to give you a lecture about arpgs having a good concept of carrot on a stick because they are all the same in all arpgs.

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Xavderion wrote:

As I told you before, you're not required to 'gamble' to reach level 100 :) That's not even the topic.

Sure, you can [Removed by Support] get excellent gear drops which you sell for maps. Map drops are gamble.

Not even the topic... just laugh at this statement.

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Peenk wrote:

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Xzonez wrote:

Also, people need to stop complaining that self found doesnt work in PoE, its ridicilous. PoE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A SELF FOUND GAME, IT IS MADE FOR PEOPLE THAT ENJOY PLAYING IN TEAMS AND ACCUMULATING WEALTH THROUGH TRADING. Get with the program or get out, your a bunch of sad whiners.

Then PoE isn't an ARPG, it's an MMORPG LOL. This one paragraph made me laugh to be fair, ridiculous statement.. 'ACCEPT THE GAME IS WRONG OR GO' The attitude of people on this forum is amazing, such blind idiots.

Where did i say that PoE is an mmorpg? Are you actually thinking that any online game that is focused on teamplay is considered a mmorpg?

There is nothing wrong with " the game " Path of exile content was designed to be played with multiple players in mind. The term self found was made up by people that do not enjoy trading and teamplay and are trying to force the game to work as a singleplayergame which will never happen.

Its obvious that economy plays a huge part in Path of Exile, thats why they have made the drop chances so low on high end uniques and orbs, so theres not such a huge influx on the market with all the good gear and orbs being easily available for everyone.

If they had any intention at all in making a singleplayer experience viable and fun in Path of Exile they would have released a Singleplayer version just like Diablo 2 did where you could use trainerprograms to instantly get all the best gear within minutes.

If theres anything wrong with the self found version of PoE its that the people involved in that thinks that Path of Exile will work by playing self found.


Stop trying to change the game to something that will never happen. The only thing that playing self found in PoE are doing is gimping yourself, your forcing yourself to farm low level areas for hundreds of hours just to get a sense of achivement in not trading with other people. Trust me, that feeling is not nice after you find a decent upgrade for yourself when you have spent ALOT of time farming merveil just to get a 200 dps upgrade on your character stat.

Its like buying a car, removing the engine and putting bicyclepedals instead of using the car like its supposed to be used.

If I play Angry Birds for 2 weeks straight and hold the highest AB score ever, does that make me hardcore?

Hardcore vs non-hardcore is a nebulous term that has no definition. Saying that PoE is or is not hardcore is only a matter of whether you're envious of players that can reach level 85 without dying, or not.

I've seldom met someone with multiple high level HC characters who felt it had been unrewarding to get that far. It seems to me that the only people who insist PoE isn't hardcore are the ones playing in standard non-hardcore leagues :)

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anubite wrote:

Hardcore vs non-hardcore is a nebulous term that has no definition. Saying that PoE is or is not hardcore is only a matter of whether you're envious of players that can reach level 85 without dying, or not.

I've seldom met someone with multiple high level HC characters who felt it had been unrewarding to get that far. It seems to me that the only people who insist PoE isn't hardcore are the ones playing in standard non-hardcore leagues :)

Agree on the bolded part.

Rest of the post is just a personal opinion/experience.

But you had to bring up the standard-hardcore senseless battle, and mind you that hardcore isn't really hardcore in the first place, it's semi-hardcore, so the OP is right there.

Not to mention your standard-hardcore observance has nothing to do with the hardcoreness OP is talking about.

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Xzonez wrote:

Path of exile content was designed to be played with multiple players in mind.

Can you link a dev quote on this? I think I remember hearing the devs say the opposite at one point so I would like to see some evidence on this.

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The term self found was made up by people that do not enjoy trading and teamplay and are trying to force the game to work as a singleplayergame which will never happen.

If the devs did intend the game to work for a sinlge player then the complaints have some validity. I really don't recall any information on PoE ever saying that the game intends for you to group and not play solo.

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If they had any intention at all in making a singleplayer experience viable and fun in Path of Exile they would have released a Singleplayer version just like Diablo 2 did where you could use trainerprograms to instantly get all the best gear within minutes.

Somehow you think that single player equals cheating?