About 1000 fusing orbs later...

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Xarog wrote:

I don't find gambling fun. Therefore I don't find the "crafting" system fun. Attempting to slog through the "crafting" system killed my enjoyment of the game so I no longer play. "Hard" or "easy" has nothing to do with it, save for the fact that if it was "easy" it would have been a minor nuisance instead of an insurmountable source of frustration.

If I return in a future league, any currency I acquire will be traded away for items of actual value to me instead of thrown down GGG's slot machine.

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syrioforel wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

RNG isn't suppose to be "fair" it's suppose to be RNG, holy shit.

RNG is fair. (Though, not in the "everything has equal chance" definition of fair.)

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deteego wrote:

RNG is mathematically fair, and thats about it. Psychologically (regarding player experience), its completely different

We need to remember that humans play PoE, not robots ;)

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Fruz wrote:

This is somewhat hardcore : the more understanding you have - the less you get crushed by the game.
RNG perfectly fits this purpose : if you expect too much from gambling <=> you lack some understanding = you can easily get punished by the RNG and that makes people QQ/rage.

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deteego wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

This is somewhat hardcore : the more understanding you have - the less you get crushed by the game.
RNG perfectly fits this purpose : if you expect too much from gambling <=> you lack some understanding = you can easily get punished by the RNG and that makes people QQ/rage.

Not really, because when you get an understanding of the mechanics, the gameplay dumbs down to the point where a brainless monkey can emulate the same type of gameplay

You, for example realise that using fusings to 6L is generally a shit idea, so what do you do instead?

Farm easy to farm areas to gain currency to buy that 6L, or go around flipping items. Neither of these activities are really hardcore.

Actual hardcore games don't give you choice, you either take the highway or lose it. PoE gives you plenty of ways to completely bypass any typeof difficulty it can claim to advertize

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deteego wrote:

Actual hardcore games don't give you choice, you either take the highway or lose it. PoE gives you plenty of ways to completely bypass any typeof difficulty it can claim to advertize

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RagnarokChu wrote:

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deteego wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

This is somewhat hardcore : the more understanding you have - the less you get crushed by the game.
RNG perfectly fits this purpose : if you expect too much from gambling <=> you lack some understanding = you can easily get punished by the RNG and that makes people QQ/rage.

Not really, because when you get an understanding of the mechanics, the gameplay dumbs down to the point where a brainless monkey can emulate the same type of gameplay

You, for example realise that using fusings to 6L is generally a shit idea, so what do you do instead?

Farm easy to farm areas to gain currency to buy that 6L, or go around flipping items. Neither of these activities are really hardcore.

Actual hardcore games don't give you choice, you either take the highway or lose it. PoE gives you plenty of ways to completely bypass any typeof difficulty it can claim to advertize

Why is this a debate whenever or not getting a 6 link is hardcore?

Hardcore means your extremely into something or a type of difficulty the norm is not accustomed too.

The RNG for a 6 link is in the sense extremely hardcore RNG, but is not "hardcore" for difficulty (since you don't need a 6 link to beat the game) or skill (there is no skill involved making a 6 link other then gathering resources to do so)

Debating whenever or not it's "hardcore" its a bad platform to justify anything, and it should be more or not 6 link should be RNG at all.