About 1000 fusing orbs later...
" RagnarokChu did Last edited by deteego#6606 on Jan 14, 2014, 6:30:46 AM
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I think he misunderstood the point I was making ;) ( or your answer to it ).
RNG fits a hardcore game for the reasons I explained, that does not make getting godlike items always hardcore, but the overall thing fits a hardcore game well. If you expect to much because of a bad understanding of the RNG part of the game => you get most likely crushed. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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" Except that there is nothing hardcore about it. Its not a determination of your skill " Yeah, but if your definition of hardcore is understanding what a ratio is, then everyone including my grandma is a hardcore player Last edited by deteego#6606 on Jan 14, 2014, 6:55:42 AM
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hardcore != skill requirement
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jan 14, 2014, 7:00:51 AM
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Guys missing my point, debating the value of whenever or not a 6 link is hardcore is retarded if the actual main point is whenever or not 6-linking should be based off of RNG or not.
I literally explained the different meaning of hardcore and why extreme RNG can be viewed as hardcore and why it cannot be hard core in other aspects. It still does not change the fact auguring if the game is hardcore or 6 linking is hardcore isn't productive in determining if the game benefits more from 6 linking being RNG, converted into deterministic rng or simply removed and you have to do x to get a 6 link. If it stayed RNG, it does not make it hardcore or "not hardcore" if it became deterministic rng it doesn't become less hardcore or more skillful if it became you have to do x to get 6 link, it doesn't become more or less hardcore or more skillfull. Holy shit Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Jan 14, 2014, 7:04:44 AM
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" Yes it is. Imagine a scenario where you a versing a guy with a gun, and you have a gun of your own PoE is a game where the guy you are versing gives you a choice. You can verse him and possibly die (or win), or you can just leave and shoot cans all day (and the guy you are versing just leaves you to do so). Shooting the cans give you just as much reward as potentially killing the guy, just over a longer period of time On the other hand, proper hardcore games give you no choice. You are forced to duel the guy. If hes better than you, you die. Thats it. Try and leave, he still shoots you dead. If you are saying the former is more hardcore than the latter, I am sorry, you need to play some games that isn't D2/PoE, so you know the actual meaning of what hardcore means. Last edited by deteego#6606 on Jan 14, 2014, 7:29:52 AM
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" you are the only one saying that 6Linking is hardcore actually, I was just pointing the fact that is relies on RNG and RNG in PoE fits the hardcore dimension that GGG want to put in the game. But it's getting off-topic, that's true. "what the hell ? Seriously, your example is terrible. Hardcore is about making choices. When you fight someone, micro managing is a succession of choices. When you build your character, it's a succession of choices. And btw, hardcore gaming is ( originally ) about spending a lot of time in a game, the purpose of it being training your skill, or not. I'm done talking about hardcore here, I'll just say this again : Hardcore doesn't imply skill. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jan 14, 2014, 7:38:08 AM
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" And the choices in PoE are a get out of free gaol card, comprehende? |
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" Lol, yet the clever people always do lotteries and trade to circumvent the gambling. So those people are playing the game wrongly you say? LOL I want to make the game hard for everyone. Noone should ever get a 6-link in less than 1000 fusings. There should be absolutely no shortcuts. This message was delivered by GGG defence force.
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yeah the op , falsely assumes that people gravitate toward gambling, ignoring the fact that the entirety of the last 4 months have been centered around the new methods players have used to get around it.
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