About 1000 fusing orbs later...

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kolton wrote:

*manages to get a 6L*
"Game is good, stop crying."

*can't get a 6L"
"Game sucks, fix plz."

There was a 50/50 chance of you making either one of these threads.

I could have made this thread after 250 fusings, or 400 fusings, or 500, or 800, but no.

I waited until it happened and then decided that even though it was close to 1000, it wasn't unreasonable.

If you got it every time after 60 fusings, say it was PRE determined, all the fun would be removed from the action.

I am tired of people complaining about random numbers when in fact what they are complaining about is poor luck. They don't want the system to change, they just want to be one of the lucky ones, the haves.

at least be honest about what you're whining about.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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Americanidle wrote:

This game is fine.

Its meant to be HARD to get a six link.

STOP WHINING ABOUT CRAFTING. RANDOM IS RANDOM, you knew going into it with your pile of four thousand alteration orbs that it was random and that the tyranical mod might never show up.

You have to just get lucky.

Deal with it.

Move on with your life.

Stop trying to turn this game into a stupid casual dumbed down unrewarding pile of crap like World of Warcraft has become (due to an ocean of whiners and idiots).

Its rewarding because its hard, because it takes time to six link a chest etc. (took me about two weeks of REASONABLE play, never more than 3-4 hours in a day, some days 0 hours due to real life).

But when it finally happened last night, it was awesome, BECAUSE ITS HARD TO DO.

/end rant.


Whiners may now continue to QQ that this game is not rewarding when in actuality they are just depressed and lazy.

hey look it is another one of those , "Hey the system worked for me because I was fortunate enough to get 6 link in the average amount of fusing , so lets forget about all the other possible out comes " thread.

because a statistical plot of exactly one point is such an error proof number.

how about this , 6l link 1000 items , and then come back and tell me it is working.
till then , this thread proves nothing.


but i am sure the op new that when he decided to make a troll thread.

If it took 1000 fusings to link this, why would I try to link 1000 items? are you thick headed or something?

Get it right. What I am saying (and I'm right by the way) is that whiners aren't wining about random, otherwise they wouldn't have spent the currency in the first place.

They're whining that they gambled and lost...BOO FUCKING HOO.

Be a man and suck it up. after 850 fusings I didn't get all pissy and whine. I just accepted the game for what it was, yes a bit like a slot machine...but don't you get that is the entire point of this game? A RANDOM reward causes a spike in dopamine in your brain, if you know the reward is coming and can anticipate it from miles away...NO SPIKE in dopamine.

You idiots need to accept what this game is about.

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Americanidle wrote:

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kolton wrote:

*manages to get a 6L*
"Game is good, stop crying."

*can't get a 6L"
"Game sucks, fix plz."

There was a 50/50 chance of you making either one of these threads.

I could have made this thread after 250 fusings, or 400 fusings, or 500, or 800, but no.

I waited until it happened and then decided that even though it was close to 1000, it wasn't unreasonable.

If you got it every time after 60 fusings, say it was PRE determined, all the fun would be removed from the action.

I am tired of people complaining about random numbers when in fact what they are complaining about is poor luck. They don't want the system to change, they just want to be one of the lucky ones, the haves.

at least be honest about what you're whining about.

Why does it have to be 250-1000? What about people wasting 5000 fuses and still not getting a 6-link? Would you have made this thread after getting a 6L with 5000 instead of 1000 saying it works as intended?

All I see in this thread is you saying 'hey I got lucky so fuck everyone else'.

And don't get me wrong, I'm just fine with the system as it is now, but I don't see the point you're trying to make. If you're even trying to make one.

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kolton wrote:

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Americanidle wrote:

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kolton wrote:

*manages to get a 6L*
"Game is good, stop crying."

*can't get a 6L"
"Game sucks, fix plz."

There was a 50/50 chance of you making either one of these threads.

I could have made this thread after 250 fusings, or 400 fusings, or 500, or 800, but no.

I waited until it happened and then decided that even though it was close to 1000, it wasn't unreasonable.

If you got it every time after 60 fusings, say it was PRE determined, all the fun would be removed from the action.

I am tired of people complaining about random numbers when in fact what they are complaining about is poor luck. They don't want the system to change, they just want to be one of the lucky ones, the haves.

at least be honest about what you're whining about.

Why does it have to be 250-1000? What about people wasting 5000 fuses and still not getting a 6-link? Would you have made this thread after getting a 6L with 5000 instead of 1000 saying it works as intended?

All I see in this thread is you saying 'hey I got lucky so fuck everyone else'.

And don't get me wrong, I'm just fine with the system as it is now, but I don't see the point you're trying to make. If you're even trying to make one.

The point im making is everyone is whining about random even though deep down they LOVE that its random, theyre actually just whining about bad luck.

I didn't get lucky. The last chest I six linked took 8-9 or so fusing orbs (i forget). That was lucky. This is about average.

RANDOM IS RANDOM, ACCEPT IT OR GTFO. Making this game less random would kill the foundation of the game, then you have no game. Back when I used to play WoW all the casual terrible players whined about no epix, why I has no epix playing 45 mins a week? Why I has no leet lewt to do the same shittay dps with? So they made the game 1000% easier, allowed epix to rain from the heavens...and the game stopped being fun because the core community of players (the small hardcore elite that keeps a game alive) left for another gaming experience because shit players still got ample rewards for being mediocre.

Be careful what you ask for, you might just get it. Then everyone is tripping over six links and shavrones and the thrill is gone.

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Americanidle wrote:

If it took 1000 fusings to link this, why would I try to link 1000 items? are you thick headed or something?

Get it right. What I am saying (and I'm right by the way) is that whiners aren't wining about random, otherwise they wouldn't have spent the currency in the first place.

They're whining that they gambled and lost...BOO FUCKING HOO.

Be a man and suck it up. after 850 fusings I didn't get all pissy and whine. I just accepted the game for what it was, yes a bit like a slot machine...but don't you get that is the entire point of this game? A RANDOM reward causes a spike in dopamine in your brain, if you know the reward is coming and can anticipate it from miles away...NO SPIKE in dopamine.

You idiots need to accept what this game is about.

nah dude you dont get it , we dont care about the 1000 linked threads , because they are the average. the accepted norm. Your case is about as special and interesting as a loaf of white bread.

when i read your thread , i was thinking "do you want a cookie?"
the thing is that your case is so unremarkable that announcing it to the world is pointless.

no one moans at 850, people complain at 2000 3000 4000 5000 and 6000 and no 6l.

you need to stop patting your self on the back with self satisfaction and learn why people really hate the system. and ill give you a hint it is not the 1000 link examples.

you come off as insufferably smug

Random is fine, but the 6L randomness is too much because of the possible scenario of a player getting stuck on this single goal for weeks (if not months) due to simple bad luck.

If failing to 6L after weeks of grinding never happened to you then that's nice. But don't act all high and mighty about it.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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Americanidle wrote:

If it took 1000 fusings to link this, why would I try to link 1000 items? are you thick headed or something?

Get it right. What I am saying (and I'm right by the way) is that whiners aren't wining about random, otherwise they wouldn't have spent the currency in the first place.

They're whining that they gambled and lost...BOO FUCKING HOO.

Be a man and suck it up. after 850 fusings I didn't get all pissy and whine. I just accepted the game for what it was, yes a bit like a slot machine...but don't you get that is the entire point of this game? A RANDOM reward causes a spike in dopamine in your brain, if you know the reward is coming and can anticipate it from miles away...NO SPIKE in dopamine.

You idiots need to accept what this game is about.

nah dude you dont get it , we dont care about the 1000 linked threads , because they are the average. the accepted norm. Your case is about as special and interesting as a loaf of white bread.

when i read your thread , i was thinking "do you want a cookie?"
the thing is that your case is so unremarkable that announcing it to the world is pointless.

no one moans or wines at 850, people complain at 2000 3000 4000 5000 and 6000 and no 6l.

you need to stop patting your self on the back with self satisfaction and learn why people really hate the system. and ill give you a hint it is not the 1000 link examples.

you come off as insufferably smug

Random is random, thats a double edged blade. Live by the sword, die by the sword. You're just mad because I'm telling the simple truth and you can't accept it.

Those select few who have spent 5k fusings, it's a damn shame to be sure, but they knew the rules when they signed up. Once again, whining is useless and only proves you can't accept the game is random.

Its the shame shit I heard from scrubcore idiots in wow, epix shouldn't be so hard to obtain waaah waaaah. Play the game and have fun, if it isn't then stop playing. But don't defend whiners who knew what they were getting into. The unwarranted whining, if it continues, WILL lead to the developers eventually making the game easier in terms of obtaining loot/6L/whatever...and those very whiners (who weren't enjoying the game to begin with) will be happy for 5 minutes, then obtain the item they couldn't get before, and quit the game shortly thereafter once they realize they were playing for the wrong reasons in the first place (loot is not the point of the game, FUN is the point, loot is a simple means).

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I actually agree. I'm quite rich, quite lucky with drops now and then and have been lucky a few times with 6ls. It's not fun for all the rest though that really really realllllllly have piss poor luck.

Lets just look at a guy with piss poor luck. Lets say hes above average in wealth.

Hes trying to make a chest from scratch, using eternals, exalts and so on.

He gets a 340~ armor roll, 102 health and 42 lightning resists after 15-20 exalts worth of currency. He then wastes more then 15 exalts worth of currency but only get level reduction or something thats equally awesome. After 5 exalts more he gets a 10 fire resist roll and is fine with it because he just gave up.

Then he uses 1200 jewelers to get a 6s and yet again 4500 fusings to get it to a 6l.

This is not crafting at all, this has nothing to do with "the hunt" for an epic item. Sure, It feels awesome to get one... But Is It really worth it when you've could have bought a perfect one from the start with better stats and many of colors. No It's not. I haven't crafted for ages because of this. I'm just flipping around my items for new builds or whatever my reasons are.

I like the basic idea of it. But the current system is flawed and takes to much numbers into account. Crafting shouldn't be gambling for a fortune. Especially when It's so luck based.

But whatever, people have different opinions.. But if you really like the current system something Is very very wrong.

These are some of my wealth on dump league to prove that I'm not a lvl 20 noob that doesn't know what he talks about.

lol Do you know what is random?

For example we have numbers 1,2,3,4 and 5. One number can spawn at a time and each number has 20% to spawn. that is random. You see? Number 5 dont have 1% to spawn but 20%.

What we have in game isnt really random, more like a lottery.

According to your words any percantge of the 6 link to spawn made by GGG is *Random is Random*

if it has 0.05% to spawn you will say *Random is Random* and if it has 0.00001% you will also say *Random is Random*

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kolton wrote:

All I see in this thread is you saying 'hey I got lucky so fuck everyone else'.

This

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Americanidle wrote:

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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Americanidle wrote:

If it took 1000 fusings to link this, why would I try to link 1000 items? are you thick headed or something?

Get it right. What I am saying (and I'm right by the way) is that whiners aren't wining about random, otherwise they wouldn't have spent the currency in the first place.

They're whining that they gambled and lost...BOO FUCKING HOO.

Be a man and suck it up. after 850 fusings I didn't get all pissy and whine. I just accepted the game for what it was, yes a bit like a slot machine...but don't you get that is the entire point of this game? A RANDOM reward causes a spike in dopamine in your brain, if you know the reward is coming and can anticipate it from miles away...NO SPIKE in dopamine.

You idiots need to accept what this game is about.

nah dude you dont get it , we dont care about the 1000 linked threads , because they are the average. the accepted norm. Your case is about as special and interesting as a loaf of white bread.

when i read your thread , i was thinking "do you want a cookie?"
the thing is that your case is so unremarkable that announcing it to the world is pointless.

no one moans or wines at 850, people complain at 2000 3000 4000 5000 and 6000 and no 6l.

you need to stop patting your self on the back with self satisfaction and learn why people really hate the system. and ill give you a hint it is not the 1000 link examples.

you come off as insufferably smug

Random is random, thats a double edged blade. Live by the sword, die by the sword. You're just mad because I'm telling the simple truth and you can't accept it.

Those select few who have spent 5k fusings, it's a damn shame to be sure, but they knew the rules when they signed up. Once again, whining is useless and only proves you can't accept the game is random.

Its the shame shit I heard from scrubcore idiots in wow, epix shouldn't be so hard to obtain waaah waaaah. Play the game and have fun, if it isn't then stop playing. But don't defend whiners who knew what they were getting into. The unwarranted whining, if it continues, WILL lead to the developers eventually making the game easier in terms of obtaining loot/6L/whatever...and those very whiners (who weren't enjoying the game to begin with) will be happy for 5 minutes, then obtain the item they couldn't get before, and quit the game shortly thereafter once they realize they were playing for the wrong reasons in the first place (loot is not the point of the game, FUN is the point, loot is a simple means).

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That's cool. I'm sick of people who play for 3 months thinking they are badass and thinking they know what is and isn't fun for other people.