Orb Candy, Diablo 3, and Sending a Message

So I never noticed these sex slaves until I read this topic and re-opened PoE to see them. I feel like you're getting worked up over nothing if I didn't even notice it playing for months and months.
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Hrishi wrote:
So I never noticed these sex slaves until I read this topic and re-opened PoE to see them. I feel like you're getting worked up over nothing if I didn't even notice it playing for months and months.


I never noticed it either until the first thread several months back. People need to chill.
I would like to see them removed as well (more for gameplay reasons), but I fail to understand the crusade over this incredibly small offense in one of the most progressive games of the generation. I'm struggling to come up with a game rated "for teenagers" or higher that doesn't do far worse. Meanwhile, PoE prominently, and non-obnoxiously, features a lesbian as one of its classes. Another is a woman who suffered an non-consensual marriage and possible domestic abuse, and GGG portrays her as an avenger rather than a helpless victim. I feel as though if this were addressed, the Miscreations or the statuary would become the next rallying point. The goalposts are always going to move.

While being flippant about it doesn't do you any favors, what the Blizzard dev said has a kernel of truth to it. Yes, videogames are often developed by men, and maybe a lot of those in charge of the visual design either haven't done a lot of thinking about the gender issues involved in how they're portraying women, or are just following what focus testing tells them is the most profitable thing to put on the box. There's a lot of tasteless shit out there--even if I had an interest in MOBA gameplay, I would never play LoL because I can't stand to look at it. I really do hope games mature on this front.

But more and more, it seems like people who have no interest in games as such are using them as a springboard for pushing their particular convictions about one issue or another. The RPS question was more of a "more liberal than you" lowblow than a legitimate concern. Being able to tangentially connect your game article to a contentious issue is always going to get more views than a simple point-by-point explanation of game mechanics.

By obsessing over this one element of the game, and making it the live-or-die criterion of whether GGG is progressive enough, you're playing into this same phenomenon. The video game as an interactive system, whose "art" is the design and implementation of its rules, has been drowned out by the game as a staging ground for social issues.

The lack of Russel responding with trains is disturbing.


Never thought about the topic as it never occurred before on this forum.
Now that I think of it, I must really like chained women and dead babies.
GGG is doing a great job to cater to the niché people like me who like both.

The exploding people are just a bonus.
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Uvne wrote:
The goalposts are always going to move.


Don't do anything about this problem because then in the future someone might complain again about something else. That is called slippery slope! See? I can play this game too!

Just imagine though, gosh, what a horrible world we would live in where everyone was eventually treated with respect and taken seriously regardless of their gender, race, sexual orientation, etc... I'm telling you we are damning ourselves by degrees!!!
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Ulizeus wrote:
Im from México, and really u dont have an a idea of how some1 can be ur sexual slave/abused without being chained right in her/his house, from people that should love her/him, u overreact just because u dont like the art of the life/mana globes, really, outside of ur little bubble a lot of bad things happen, if u put a half the effort that u put here maybe u can save some1 life irl,


You know what, it is entirely true that even worse things happen in real life. That is why I linked to the 3 women who were kidnapped and raped for years in my OP. It was an example of how this is a real world problem that should not be trivialized by the UI in a video game. I feel bad every day knowing atrocities are taking place in the real world, but you know what, caring about Path of Exile's UI does not stop me from also caring about those other things. I voted for people who would uphold the Violence Against Women Act and the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, for example. I marched on our state capital for women's rights.

The thing is, I can't ignore what I see in my games any more. Video game culture is horrible, and stuff like this UI encourages that horribleness whether it was the intention of the artist and GGG or not. What they need to do is be responsible as a company, own up to it as a mistake, and make a change to their game.
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Dmillz wrote:
Seriously dude? You reply immediately to all the trolls and ignore my post where I actually made a level headed argument?


Your "level headed argument" was "oh come on it isn't that offensive, watch me derail the argument by talking about something else PoE does that I personally think is more offensive". Not sure why I'm supposed to be impressed, derailment is not an argument.
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Michael_GGG wrote:
Hey guys,

Please be mindful not to harass or be abusive toward other users, thanks.

Regarding the topic, as we've mentioned in the past we do take on board all such feedback, and the developers will consider changes for the future if needed.



Hey Michael, Please don't implement changes based on one reactionary SQUUUUEEAAKKKKKKY WHEEEEL post, for the love of this game.

If there was some kind of poll, and the majority of PoE'ers decided a change is necessary (or an otherwise large number), that is another case entirely.


I just would like to point out a few tidbits from this modern day confucious:

If you're about to tell me that....b) you didn't notice it before ... d) lol ur puzzy whipped, just don't bother because I've heard it all before and don't really care.

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Ganrao wrote:
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Ganrao wrote:
They could have just left the rest of the UI alone and took the offensive element out, and had a perfectly functional game that didn't alienate half the world population immediately.


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Ganrao wrote:
It has to do with decisions by the devs to marginalize women.... I guess in a way you and some of them have something in common! Not that you should be proud of that....


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Ganrao wrote:

PLEASE

REMOVE

THE

SEX

SLAVES

FROM

THE

UI

THANKS

"all I can conclude is that Grinding Gear Games just doesn't actually care about making their game welcoming for people who aren't teenage boys"

-Ironic based on how old some of said OP's comments sound.

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Ganrao wrote:

...yeah I was basically saying I'm leaving for Diablo 3 since that game doesn't have sex slaves in the UI...


Is this man the future voice of GGG, Michael? Please don't make it so :(.

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Edit: Confucius. Sorry for my poor late night spelling, and if there were any other errors I missed.

Also, I forgot to add the minor irony, of his exodus towards a game which turned the lord of terroar from a large, hulking demon, into a breasted femdemon, for no apparent story reason (one woman turns him female? how about the other countless demons he absorbed?).

In case you've never played D2 or D3 (spoiler, kinda..),

D2 Lord of Terror (he was scary for 2001, trust me)-
There is no cow level....
D3 Lord of Terror (wut?)-
(I know we're arch enemies and all, but can I still get your number?)

Spoiler
Honestly the idea of going back to a game that took so much away from its successful genre defining predecessor, is not only a silly way of spiting your face (by cutting off his nose) but seems like a threat with no real teeth, to me. Please do not change solid game aspects just on ONE loud post here, guys :/


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