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Sneakypaw wrote:
It's not about the evading of monster hits. It's about that your character can miss. In diablo 3 your character can't miss.
Miss/accuracy is just stat, like dodge/evade, resist, crit..etc..while it's additional check..it has probably minimal or even none effect on desync.. In other words.. lack of accuracy stat in D3 is design decision for gameplay, not for mitigating desync.. So PoE could easily keep this stat..and still fix desync issue.
We are talking about different issue here..
You should go back to page 6 or so and read up on how accuracy (hit/miss mechanic) effects desync in this game.
“Demons run when a good man goes to war"
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Posted bySneakypaw#3052on Nov 19, 2013, 11:54:42 AM
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D2 and TQ use client as host server IIRC. Of course they have no desync issues (primarily for game hosts).
Oh and avoidamnce mechanics do in fact have an effect on desync, because clinet server need to guess what's going to happen and convey it to the player.
IGN - PlutoChthon, Talvathir Last edited by Autocthon#5515 on Nov 19, 2013, 12:00:52 PM
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Nov 19, 2013, 11:59:56 AM
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ah, I remember the black wall of death in D2
good times....
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Posted byZahndethus#0617on Nov 19, 2013, 12:00:30 PM
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Sneakypaw wrote:
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ManiaCCC wrote:
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Sneakypaw wrote:
It's not about the evading of monster hits. It's about that your character can miss. In diablo 3 your character can't miss.
Miss/accuracy is just stat, like dodge/evade, resist, crit..etc..while it's additional check..it has probably minimal or even none effect on desync.. In other words.. lack of accuracy stat in D3 is design decision for gameplay, not for mitigating desync.. So PoE could easily keep this stat..and still fix desync issue.
We are talking about different issue here..
You should go back to page 6 or so and read up on how accuracy (hit/miss mechanic) effects desync in this game.
Can you quote specific part? I found accuracy mentioned once in that long post..and it has nothing with issue what we are talking about..
Accuracy is just stat.. nothing more..nothing less..like crit..with just different outcome.. but it's not main issue of desync.
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Posted byManiaCCC#5219on Nov 19, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
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ManiaCCC wrote:
Can you quote specific part? I found accuracy mentioned once in that long post..and it has nothing with issue what we are talking about..
Accuracy is just stat.. nothing more..nothing less..like crit..with just different outcome.. but it's not main issue of desync.
I thought we are talking about desync? What are you talking about?
“Demons run when a good man goes to war"
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Posted bySneakypaw#3052on Nov 19, 2013, 12:14:22 PM
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It wasn't.
Happened occasionally when a lot of shit was going on, but I don't remember ever dying to it.
As far as I remember, Titan Quest had no issues either, and that game had complex pathing like PoE.
However, the drones are on their way. They will now explain to you how desync is a feature, not a flaw.
As far as i remember Diablo 2 was full of hackers. As far as i remember Titan Quest was full of hackers.
Havent seen hacker in PoE yet. And they said if they fix the desync, they will most likely change the servers or what ever so it will be very easy for the hackers to actually hack in the game.
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Posted byMGTopgun#1427on Nov 19, 2013, 12:20:35 PM
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Sneakypaw wrote:
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Sneakypaw wrote:
It's not about the evading of monster hits. It's about that your character can miss. In diablo 3 your character can't miss.
Even misses aren't that noticeable. Do you use accuracy gem? Or do you just take RT and ignore the issue completely? Do you actively seek accuracy on your gear? I'd say most people don't consider accuracy to be a core mechanic either.
How do you define core mechanics?
To me core mechanics are much broader: equip-able items, monsters drop those items when killed, character progression by levelling and such.
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Posted byLogoOnPoE#1873on Nov 19, 2013, 12:27:15 PM
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MGTopgun wrote:
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It wasn't.
Happened occasionally when a lot of shit was going on, but I don't remember ever dying to it.
As far as I remember, Titan Quest had no issues either, and that game had complex pathing like PoE.
However, the drones are on their way. They will now explain to you how desync is a feature, not a flaw.
As far as i remember Diablo 2 was full of hackers. As far as i remember Titan Quest was full of hackers.
Havent seen hacker in PoE yet. And they said if they fix the desync, they will most likely change the servers or what ever so it will be very easy for the hackers to actually hack in the game.
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That's a flawed argument. Correlation does not imply causation.
If you want to look further into the technical part this issue, read the thread which I've referred to in my earlier posts.
Writing /thread without having the greatest, most bulletproof argument known to man is silly.
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Posted byDmmpx#0372on Nov 19, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
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You didn't desync, but you could also map hack, bot, and dupe items with impunity. I had a pindlebot running every day while I was at school lol.
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Posted byfELonius1#5494on Nov 19, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
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D2 had offline play so it's basically comparing apples and oranges but defending the huge de-sync problem in this game has to be the stupidest things I've read. It's ruining the game experience and people who like the game and want to play are speaking out for requests only with the intention of getting improvement of the game for everyone.
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Posted byBudRoaster#4337on Nov 19, 2013, 12:31:05 PM
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