GGG Please Figure out how to stop Boosting (screenshots included)

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It has nothing to do with being "too dumb" to figure out how to boost, it requires you to have multiple accounts

Its not as simple as "having multiple accounts" are you aware of how boosting works? if so, you would know that its quite complex to setup, its not effortless I can tell you that.

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MyH4o wrote:

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Australiabro wrote:

I was waiting for this thread to pop up, people just cant help themselves these days.
Boosting isn't illegal, so stfu and ignore it. They aren't hurting you, or affecting your gameplay, if they choose to boost, its their own decision. If you're too dumb to figure out how to boost, then you're more then likely to complain about it.

IMO this thread should be deleted, as it serves no purpose other then having people bitch and complain.

Hell yeah! Post of the year! Nuff said!

You mean most stupid post of the year? Yeah that it is.

Fantastic how people are trying to justify cheating, but you can always see that. Chris has explicitely stated that they are unhappy with people boosting so it is definitely an exploit.

Also nobody is too stupid to boost. It is piss easy to set up, don't flatter yourself just because you cannot deal with being called a cheater.

It is also not only their own decision since they are taking away prices from other people playing races and leagues legitimately, so do not act like this is happening in a vacuum.

Basically every single point of your post is utter nonsense.

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Burgingham wrote:

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MyH4o wrote:

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Australiabro wrote:

I was waiting for this thread to pop up, people just cant help themselves these days.
Boosting isn't illegal, so stfu and ignore it. They aren't hurting you, or affecting your gameplay, if they choose to boost, its their own decision. If you're too dumb to figure out how to boost, then you're more then likely to complain about it.

IMO this thread should be deleted, as it serves no purpose other then having people bitch and complain.

Hell yeah! Post of the year! Nuff said!

You mean most stupid post of the year? Yeah that it is.

Fantastic how people are trying to justify cheating, but you can always see that. Chris has explicitely stated that they are unhappy with people boosting so it is definitely an exploit.

Also nobody is too stupid to boost. It is piss easy to set up, don't flatter yourself just because you cannot deal with being called a cheater.

It is also not only their own decision since they are taking away prices from other people playing races and leagues legitimately, so do not act like this is happening in a vacuum.

Basically every single point of your post is utter nonsense.

I don't boost, FYI.

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It is also not only their own decision since they are taking away prices from other people playing races and leagues legitimately, so do not act like this is happening in a vacuum.

and lol.

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Burgingham wrote:

Moos, this is such flawed logic.

Because others are cheating I have to cheat too to be able to compete? No. People complaining have the moral high ground here and you are just trying to justify your own boosting then I guess.

Maybe you assumed from my defensive of DDT that I'm boosting. Like I said I took the moral high ground but I understand why people boost. It's not nearly as bad in HC as it is in default.

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Don't go for top 10 then if you have to exploit and cheat your way up there. But I guess this is just modern mentality and not exclusive to a game. The end justifies any means.

Anyone using these exploits does not deserve to be anywhere near the top of the game. They are not skilled in any way. The poster before me shows that you can be on top without being an absolute asshole. Mad respect for that.

DDT showed panda's graph of a 3hr race where he "boosted." Panda crushes all these no party races too. Don't try and convince yourself that the only reason you aren't at the top is because of boosting. This is the exact reason I ranted. Without boosting many of the guys you see at the top will still be there because they practice races and learn every minor detail about the game. Go watch panda's 3hr race video if you don't know what I mean. He has put thought into every move he makes.

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I honestly do not get the devs stance on this. I would randomly go around and delete boosting toons I catch. I know this from a game I have been alpha testing. It had permadeath and if they caught you botting they might just spawn a horde of enemies right next to you and you could say bye bye to your toon.

DDT explained that well already that if you get rid of lvl 1 boosters people who want boosters will just get higher level ones. The only time boosters really kill the competition is in races longer than a week. In a week race it takes time to get them to merci so the time you waste will only gain you easy access to top 5. In a month race or longer you won't be able to stop it based on level period. I can get a lvl 60 in about 15-20 hours, maybe less and I'm not on a crazy rush pace and that's from a fresh account. That's not having the ability to give my alt wps, kill the bosses and orbs for gear.

You guys compare boosting to botting and it's two completely different things. There are still good players behind those boosters and while someone did say some people would have never made it to their ladder position w/o them, which I agree with, most would be still pushing for the top even w/o them.

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Moosifer wrote:

You guys compare boosting to botting and it's two completely different things. There are still good players behind those boosters and while someone did say some people would have never made it to their ladder position w/o them, which I agree with, most would be still pushing for the top even w/o them.

Well said.

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Dashtun wrote:

@ddt

i dont understand how can you on one hand say things like "i want boosting to stop" and "its bad for the game" on the other hand you keep doing it

why dont you set an example? do you value "success" above all?how does it feel when you know if you played only one account you wouldnt be able to compete? you are not in top 10 because you are skilled player do you realize that? aint no skill in running multiple computers,my 6 year old nephew can do it...

you know i dont have to be told not to do some things,nobody have ever told me kicking babies in the head is a nono

ggg have never said scaming you in trade is forbidden - yet im not gonna do it because its something i naturaly wouldnt do and i naturaly wouldnt run multiple accounts because i seriously doubt one of the ggg staff said in the first meeting "lets make a game where players have to play multiple accounts"

maybe im expecting too much maturity from you,i dont know how old are you but for me looking for holes to make me win in games stoped being funny when i was like 15

i dont know you so ill give you pass (and i dont want to be harsh on you personaly when there are also others),maybe you need to be in top 10 instead of top 30 because otherwise you d be sad or something,so have it for all i care...its just really interesting behaviour,it seems like you really want not to do it but you just cant help yourself

Dashtun, I would be in the top 10 either way. do you not realize that?

Scamming doesnt get you ahead, you are worse off really just FYI. If I were to scam someone, I would end up getting less trade deals.

I'm not "looking" for holes to exploit them. I exploit any part of the game within its rules to win.

If I find a skill that's very strong even one that most would call overpowered or out of balance. You think I shouldnt use this skill?
Its tactics also like, making a second account or toon to get gems for me on races. Is this an issue? What you think is wrong, could be totally write in GGG's eyes I dont know. Just because you or I dont like it doesnt mean its not going to be used or isnt the way it was planned.



Answer this. Take the skill Enfeeble. Its very strong, and likely out of balance. Should I not use it because you (and even myself) think its overpowered? Now think of this, GGG plans on nerfing this skill and hasnt done it yet. Does that mean I shouldnt use it?

Now switch the word "Enfeeble" with boosting.

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Australiabro wrote:

I was waiting for this thread to pop up, people just cant help themselves these days.
Boosting isn't illegal, so stfu and ignore it. They aren't hurting you, or affecting your gameplay, if they choose to boost, its their own decision. If you're too dumb to figure out how to boost, then you're more then likely to complain about it.

The problem is that it shouldnt need to be done. You shouldnt need to run 5 extra accounts to compete.

Yes it snot illegal how it does effect others. Right now we are in closed beta, so really boosting is like pay to win. (Due to paying for extra keys to allow you to boost)

It should be removed, and really doesnt need to be in game.

I dont want to force people to play solo, I dont want to force people to play in a group, and I sure as heck dont want to force people to boost solo play.

Party play should have bonuses, Solo play should have bonuses. Both should be viable in different ways. Boosting shouldnt be part of the evaluation IMO.

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MrDDT wrote:

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Australiabro wrote:

I was waiting for this thread to pop up, people just cant help themselves these days.
Boosting isn't illegal, so stfu and ignore it. They aren't hurting you, or affecting your gameplay, if they choose to boost, its their own decision. If you're too dumb to figure out how to boost, then you're more then likely to complain about it.

The problem is that it shouldnt need to be done. You shouldnt need to run 5 extra accounts to compete.

Yes it snot illegal how it does effect others. Right now we are in closed beta, so really boosting is like pay to win. (Due to paying for extra keys to allow you to boost)

It should be removed, and really doesnt need to be in game.

I dont want to force people to play solo, I dont want to force people to play in a group, and I sure as heck dont want to force people to boost solo play.

Party play should have bonuses, Solo play should have bonuses. Both should be viable in different ways. Boosting shouldn't be part of the evaluation IMO.

In all fairness it is true GGG should of dealt with this, or they should of made it clear on their stance of the issue, so that it wouldn't get out of hand. The fact is that people using this exploit are gaining real money out of it, whether it be in-store credit or even physical goods. It completely destroys the integrity of ladders and races, which in effect makes the whole ladder system a farce.

Maybe my way of looking at things regarding races and ladders is too genuine, maybe I just wanted the playing field to be fair for everyone, if that makes me a fool then so be it.

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Desbris wrote:

It should be removed, and really doesnt need to be in game.

I dont want to force people to play solo, I dont want to force people to play in a group, and I sure as heck dont want to force people to boost solo play.

Party play should have bonuses, Solo play should have bonuses. Both should be viable in different ways. Boosting shouldn't be part of the evaluation IMO.

In all fairness it is true GGG should of dealt with this, or they should of made it clear on their stance of the issue, so that it wouldn't get out of hand. The fact is that people using this exploit are gaining real money out of it, whether it be in-store credit or even physical goods. It completely destroys the integrity of ladders and races, which in effect makes the whole ladder system a farce.

Maybe my way of looking at things regarding races and ladders is too genuine, maybe I just wanted the playing field to be fair for everyone, if that makes me a fool then so be it.[/quote]

Trust me, I know where you are coming from. I want it to be as fair as we can get it, and make it about skill.

Same is true about "play time" kinda getting way off topic here. But some people can play 19hours a day. Is it fair they can do it and I cant? Now good thing we have different leagues to support this.
But you still have people getting rewarded for playing more. Take people like Prozon or Panda. Both good players. Panda can play many hours a day, AND still play in the 3h races. He will be rewarded more than Prozon who can play many hours a day and DOESNT play in the 3h races. Is this fair? Or the other is true. I can play in 3h races yet, I cant play 19hours a day. This isnt fair.

Well like I said, it should be as close to fair as it can. You also have to take into account other things like, fun for people. Life isnt always fair. Races will almost never be fair. Some people are born with good genes to be stronger, they dont have to work as hard as others.
Same is the case with many things in life. Now how this ties into the game is simply enforce the rules the game makers set, and play by them. You and I need to figure out ways to use our strengths and play to them. Mine is understanding math pretty well, luckily I can also play a fair amount.

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Moosifer wrote:

You guys compare boosting to botting and it's two completely different things. There are still good players behind those boosters and while someone did say some people would have never made it to their ladder position w/o them, which I agree with, most would be still pushing for the top even w/o them.

For the most part, I agree with this as well.

Mostly people boosting are the type that know all the efficient ways to race anyway. Taking away boosting won't keep most of them from their top spots, because the people at the top are good racers.

In all honesty, there's one reason why I don't hold a top spot in the ladder. It's not because I won't boost. It's because I'm not a good hc racer, and I'm also not dedicated enough to pull it off anyway (with or without abusing xp mechanics). Pretty sure almost everyone else is the same.