GGG Please Figure out how to stop Boosting (screenshots included)

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wiggin wrote:

In MMOs they often simply forbid 'multiboxing', so even playing two lv70s would be illegal. Which is quite hard to prove because people will say something like 'I play with my grandmother and she is very slow with her toon'.

It would be definitely better if boosters had to play those 10 hours instead of 10 seconds to make new character, though. Not really square one as you are trying to picture, more like square 55.

Its more than 10s, its closer to 1 to 2 hours. You have to get them to the EL, which means you have to do all the quests.

It also doesnt fix the issue with boosting in races as I already showed you the graph on how it can be done.

About multi boxing is normally ALLOWED, not forbid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-boxing

Yeah I was exaggerating. The point still stands. You would spend 10 hours just to be able to boost in maps. Not square 1. Sure not a 100% fix. But it's one step.

Edit: Actually it depends what game you play. I was actually thinking of multi-clienting (?) I guess. Running 6 PCs just to play PoE would make it a bit harder to abuse /players.

Edit2: So I read few words from the wiki and it is still called multiboxing. And that's what is often forbidden. Or I played some very extraordinary games where it was.

A booster wouldn't have to play those 10 hours to level. This is my point. I could simply ask some friends to do it for free, or even offer them an exalt in default league.

But that player would have to spend that time, and it would be quite similar to partying. And if we went further and put level restrictions to other areas, it would be even better. (worse for boosters though)

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wiggin wrote:

But that player would have to spend that time, and it would be quite similar to partying. And if we went further and put level restrictions to other areas, it would be even better. (worse for boosters though)

Would it slightly curb boosting? Yes it would slightly curb it. However, there are very easy ways around it.

Just look at the 3 hour race. If you can boost using your rules in a 3 HOUR!!! race, what would stop you from doing it in a 1 week, or 1 month race where we all know the pay out is much more rewarding.

Boosting major issue is a few fold.

1)Not everyone can really do it, (computer issues, # of accounts etc)
2)Why force people to play at "boosted" settings to compete? If GGG wants people to play on that setting why not just program the league for it, like they did with the +60% turbo league?
3)Its not fun to level up (or get your boosters) into boosting status. Its not likely meant to be played like this and I'm sure its not something GGG will be promoting on how to play the game.

Your "level restrictions" to areas, doesnt fix any of it, it only slightly curbs part of it.

I've never been one to fix something 1/2 assed only to have to fix it again a short time later. We all know the problem, now the question is how to fix it. I believe what I posted is a good fix for it.

Lets talk about the fixes instead of "so and so is a cheater" or whatever.

Level restrictions would simply make it harder to boost. That's why you lock the door when you leave your apartment. And then there could be a rule making it bannable offence. I don't know how hard it is to actually detect boosting, probably pretty hard... But in the races they would have to check only the best players who get prizes, and if they were found boosting, they would get nothing.

This is not gonna be solved in CB I am pretty sure. So the point 1) will vanish with OB. I think we are not talking about so and so is a cheater at all, I just noted the level restriction idea (not mine but w/e) that was considered useless but in fact wouldn't be useless, just not an ultimate solution. In other games (and real world) the two steps somewhat work - making unwanted practice as uncomfortable as possible and make it clear that it is illegal.

I'm not reading all 19 pages of this, but I would like to note in response to the person who mentioned people having pages of uniques:

Last night was the very first time I've played PoE with anyone else, I always play alone due to crappy internet. I currently have about 2 pages of uniques (almost all useless and worthless, I'll turn them into chances at some point if I get around to it). They didn't come from boosting or cheating, and my iiq/iir isn't even that high. I know others who have similar sized collections.

I don't think it's fair to assume people are boosting or cheating just because they are finding loot. It's an ARPG, if you aren't finding loot, you're doing it wrong.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

I don't think it's fair to assume people are boosting or cheating just because they are finding loot. It's an ARPG, if you aren't finding loot, you're doing it wrong.

I'm sorry but i find this totally laughable. The poster say he doesn't have high iir or iiq and then says if you are not finding loot you are doing it wrong.

Do you realise it is all down to luck ?

That luck is slightly enhanced when you use IIR for chance of better items dropping or IIQ for more items dropping.

So IIQ gives you a better advantage and when you multiply that by boosting and add in IIR then you may understand what people are talking about.

Its not about people having lots of uniques its about people being rewarded in races for using boosting as the method to win.

Maybe next time it would be better to read whole conversation before making a comment such as you have.

There should be no blame placed on DDT, he should be commended for legitimately testing the hell out of this product before release. GGG however should be held responsible for the race fiasco. They have taken too long to fix a known issue, also feel they should be commenting in this thread with an explicit standpoint on the issue.

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bingobill wrote:

There should be no blame placed on DDT, he should be commended for legitimately testing the hell out of this product before release. GGG however should be held responsible for the race fiasco. They have taken too long to fix a known issue, also feel they should be commenting in this thread with an explicit standpoint on the issue.

It would be nice if there was an official comment from the Devs but from what i have heard in previous posts it has been discussed in Alpha and we are not worthy of knowing if or how they are going to deal with it. But to continute having races and give rewards until this is sorted is beyond belief.

It is truly like being a mushroom. Get fed a load of crap and yet still kept in the dark.

If this the way GGG and Devs are going to treat the community god help us when OB hits and there are more problems to deal with.

Other things that are wrong with the game either get changed or nerfed when there is un balance.

So why is Boosting Different ?