GGG Please Figure out how to stop Boosting (screenshots included)

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Badmotorfinger wrote:

So what's so hard to figure out to fix that man? Just make it be split using the normal formula whether they are in range or not. So you'd have to level 5 alts to level 55 to join your game and you have to split your lvl 80 exp with lvl 55s but fight mobs with a ton more HP. You would get more experience than being by yourself sure but theres alot more risk-reward ratio and you wouuldnt get nearly as much exp as you can now. Doesnt fix the quantity problem but solved for experience boost at least.

This is incorrect. Since the alts are parked at the TP, you gain the ENTIRE amount of extra exp that is applied. It doesn't matter if they are lvl 1, or = to your level. It's irrelevant. The lvl difference formula is only applied when the other players (alts) are within range.

Anyways, I will be doing a write up tomorrow in regards to my thoughts and opinions after the month mark has passed. I will be discussing this topic, although not about exp, since the exp is definitely a problem which GGG needs to address before OB.

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MrDDT wrote:

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butcherspupil wrote:

For those of you who used boosters, gz, your true nature to fulfil your credibility is forever tainted

Its not botting or hacking, its a loophole exploit, plain and simple, where people have to option to take advantage of and it ...

Please answer me this.

Temporal Chains was overpowered. It was nerfed. Does that mean anyone using Temporal Chains before the nerf are tainted?

What about the next one. Enfeeble is likely get get nerfed soon because its way overpowered. That mean anyone using it now in races is tainted?

Oh what about this. Ledge give a lot of good exp for little to no risk, so people that farm there from level 4 because I think that's not fair. They tainted too?

Oh how about, when I play in a race, I dont get the gem I want off the start I remake a new toon and rush them to get a gem put it in the stash and then I have a gem to use. That make me tainted too?

How about this, before killing the boss mob, I put on my MF gear on, so I get better loot drops. Is that wrong too? I mean its giving advantages.


Do you get to make up which tactics "loopholes" as you call them are making people tainted or not? Can I get that power too?

Anyone can do the things you listed. Not anyone can run multiple accounts. That's what makes it an unfair advantage compared to the examples you gave. If you really don't see the difference, you are kidding youself.

As for the question of who decides what's tainted, we all do, it's in the eye of the beholder. I think the other guy was just informing you that most people have little respect for the guys who are only at the top due to boosting, sorry if it hurt your epeen, but he's right.

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MrDDT wrote:

So its ok to do it at lower levels just not level 80?
So 3h races no one cares about?

To clear that up, I was talking about a temp solution they could have made for the ladder, not races. You can get to lvl 50 in a day anyway with or without boosters so in this perticular 1 month race which is what im talking about it wouldnt have made that much difference in the end. But if they wanted to make it just as hard at lower levels I would imagine they could adjust the formula curve used to calculate the experience gained compared to party members levels to make is equally as hard to boost a lvl 10 with lvl 1s as it is to boost a lvl 80 with lvl 50s.

This combined with sharing exp whether in range or not would solve the issue until someone developed a bot to help kill monsters with your alts and follow you around. Sure it might be tough to detect that if it ever came into existance but im 99% sure it wouldn't during this 1 month race. This is what i mean by a bandaid solution GGG could have implemented before starting this ladder, knowing boosting existed.

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MRDDT wrote:

Also why level 55? Now I cant do maps til level 55? What if I want to do maps at level 54 when its the best exp?

Doesnt have to be 55, that was jut an example. Could be 54 or even 50 but you'd have to draw the line somewhere reasonable.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

Anyone can do the things you listed. Not anyone can run multiple accounts. That's what makes it an unfair advantage compared to the examples you gave. If you really don't see the difference, you are kidding youself.

As for the question of who decides what's tainted, we all do, it's in the eye of the beholder. I think the other guy was just informing you that most people have little respect for the guys who are only at the top due to boosting, sorry if it hurt your epeen, but he's right.

Anyone can run multi accounts.
Once it goes OB it will be easier too.

You are saying you have the eye and saying its not right to do. Yet how are players to know what you call right or wrong? Is there a list somewhere?

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MrDDT wrote:

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MonstaMunch wrote:

Anyone can do the things you listed. Not anyone can run multiple accounts. That's what makes it an unfair advantage compared to the examples you gave. If you really don't see the difference, you are kidding youself.

As for the question of who decides what's tainted, we all do, it's in the eye of the beholder. I think the other guy was just informing you that most people have little respect for the guys who are only at the top due to boosting, sorry if it hurt your epeen, but he's right.

Anyone can run multi accounts.
Once it goes OB it will be easier too.

You are saying you have the eye and saying its not right to do. Yet how are players to know what you call right or wrong? Is there a list somewhere?

Not everyone has computers powerful enough to run multiple instances of the game, or internet good enough to handle it. In fact, I'm willing to be most players don't.

And no, I'm not saying "I have the eye" (whatever that's supposed to mean), I'm saying everyone gets to make up their own mind what they think, and most people seem to agree on this issue. The only people who don't are the few that benefit from the current setup.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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MrDDT wrote:

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MonstaMunch wrote:

Anyone can do the things you listed. Not anyone can run multiple accounts. That's what makes it an unfair advantage compared to the examples you gave. If you really don't see the difference, you are kidding youself.

As for the question of who decides what's tainted, we all do, it's in the eye of the beholder. I think the other guy was just informing you that most people have little respect for the guys who are only at the top due to boosting, sorry if it hurt your epeen, but he's right.

Anyone can run multi accounts.
Once it goes OB it will be easier too.

You are saying you have the eye and saying its not right to do. Yet how are players to know what you call right or wrong? Is there a list somewhere?

Not everyone has computers powerful enough to run multiple instances of the game, or internet good enough to handle it. In fact, I'm willing to be most players don't.

So what if they disconnect? My internet is slower than others, does that mean they should nerf the ping to everyone?

Oh its not fair that some people can use SSD's not everyone can afford that, that saves like 2s per zone in.

You got to be kidding me with the computer thing.

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MrDDT wrote:

Anyone can run multi accounts.
Once it goes OB it will be easier too.

Pay to win as it is now in CB. Weak

Annoyance in OB if everyone has to mule around alts to compete at the same level in races. Just do /player command if thats the fix then. Weak

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You are saying you have the eye and saying its not right to do. Yet how are players to know what you call right or wrong? Is there a list somewhere?

I'm starting to wonder whhat side you're in here. You say in other posts that you think boosting needs fixed so i was under the assumption you think it's not good for the game, yet you're playing devils advocate with anyone agreeing with your own so called ideology, trolling? If not then wtf are you trying to prove dude?

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MrDDT wrote:

So what if they disconnect? My internet is slower than others, does that mean they should nerf the ping to everyone?

Oh its not fair that some people can use SSD's not everyone can afford that, that saves like 2s per zone in.

You got to be kidding me with the computer thing.

You're grasping at straws here, I'm not sure if you think you're kidding me or yourself. Having a computer to play the game as intended, and having the resources to run 6 instances of it at the same time are completely different things. The first is accessible to almost all PC gamers, the second isn't.

And did you really just compare the difference between going solo and having 6 boosters to the difference between using an HDD and SSD? This is getting silly.

DDT are you sure there arent any further questions you have to ask me? If so can you please make them relevant to the topic, your relating skill/curse gems that ggg put out for us to use in cb to people that multibix (which is probably complicated to the avg person) during a race that entitles rewards...

SIGH ... YAWN

do you expect ggg to release a perfectly balanced version of a skill/curse gem in closed beta upon its creation? GGG GIVES YOU the direct option to the things YOU mentioned you can do, therefore it doesnt taint you...you have to go out of your way to multibox and its not something GGG directly offers you, for example, running a vendor script for links..thats not available upon entering forest encampment..

To me it sounds like you believe that multiboxing doesn't taint your credibility during a race you participated and recieved an award for..and if you dont believe this than you shouldnt be asking me those retarded questions..so please im waiting prove me wrong

This is an amusing read.

MrDDT thinks that boosting needs a perma fix, as he believes the game is not intended to be able to played in this way (note, he is assuming intentions of use of GGG. GGG has not made any statements in regard to boosting that I'm aware of). Or half arsed dodgy quick pie in the sky fix that is circumventable will do.

Currently, boosting is allowed. Therefore, to be the best, you invest in the best resources you can get, and boost. If it's in the game, its in the game..... there is no moral boundary, eye of the beholder crapola :P it exists, it's not aginst the rules, it is therefore allowable.

Now, the reason it needs to be stopped has been hashed over throughout the thread (just skip the insult threads and mud slinging).

Solutions however seem to be meh.

PS: I hope I got your thoughts/intentions right there MrDDT. It was the gyst I was getting :)

EDIT: PPS: why do you think FPS players by the best surround sound headsets... they don't have to. but it improves their K/D ratio, or whatever measurement they use to determine how good they are doing. Having to invest doesn't make something wrong.