GGG Please Figure out how to stop Boosting (screenshots included)

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MrDDT wrote:
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Desbris wrote:

Cheating all in all, displays what people's true character is like and that is a fact. Anyone who cheats so that they gain and prosper know what they are doing is wrong, but know they are willing to do whatever it takes to WIN. There is no on grey area about it, because the issues are now known, simple as, and the rewards are very real.


Can you answer a question?

What if get 5 friends to play the level 1s on their computers. Is it considered "cheating"?

What if I level all the "boosters" to 60 first?

What if I level them to 50?

What if I get 5 of my friends to play level 50s and run around the map with me?

No grey area now?


And your post is in no way pedantic? Let me ask you a question, you HAVE boosted at one point right? So I can also assume that your views are biased. Your questions were simply pedantic for the sake of argument. If you want to nitpick that is fine, but you very well know and understand what the issue is here, and very know what is being questioned. I find every single one of the questions you just posted, irrelevant. Now it is obviously possible that situations like that "can" arise.

But, at the same time many of those questions you made are questionable in their intent. And this is about a player benefiting greatly by abusing a system. Clearly you are trying to say that there are many variables that are connected with the issue and it isn't as easy and just doing x or y which to an extent is true. But there are many issues right now that could very well be resolved and the fact is, the very simple fact is there are and have been many players in the top 10 who are using this system for their own personal gain.



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MrDDT wrote:
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Desbris wrote:

Cheating all in all, displays what people's true character is like and that is a fact. Anyone who cheats so that they gain and prosper know what they are doing is wrong, but know they are willing to do whatever it takes to WIN. There is no on grey area about it, because the issues are now known, simple as, and the rewards are very real.


Can you answer a question?

What if get 5 friends to play the level 1s on their computers. Is it considered "cheating"?

What if I level all the "boosters" to 60 first?

What if I level them to 50?

What if I get 5 of my friends to play level 50s and run around the map with me?

No grey area now?


if you find 5 friends who are willing to boost you good for you

if you do it yourself its cheating

just because the result would be the same (same exp and drop rate) doesnt make boosting by yourself legit,it still cheating because party was designed to be played with more players

its more of an ethical question and because its internet its full of assholes so it doesnt matter if i label it cheating or legit - assholes dont care,so the debate is pointless - and if you are trying to justify cheating by saying well if i get full party of friends i get the same benefits,you are asshole too...

ggg got the key to solve this problem,they either do it or dont,if they turn blind eye well fck them
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Dashtun wrote:
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MrDDT wrote:
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Desbris wrote:

Cheating all in all, displays what people's true character is like and that is a fact. Anyone who cheats so that they gain and prosper know what they are doing is wrong, but know they are willing to do whatever it takes to WIN. There is no on grey area about it, because the issues are now known, simple as, and the rewards are very real.


Can you answer a question?

What if get 5 friends to play the level 1s on their computers. Is it considered "cheating"?

What if I level all the "boosters" to 60 first?

What if I level them to 50?

What if I get 5 of my friends to play level 50s and run around the map with me?

No grey area now?


if you find 5 friends who are willing to boost you good for you

if you do it yourself its cheating

just because the result would be the same (same exp and drop rate) doesnt make boosting by yourself legit,it still cheating because party was designed to be played with more players

its more of an ethical question and because its internet its full of assholes so it doesnt matter if i label it cheating or legit - assholes dont care,so the debate is pointless - and if you are trying to justify cheating by saying well if i get full party of friends i get the same benefits,you are asshole too...

ggg got the key to solve this problem,they either do it or dont,if they turn blind eye well fck them


Dash summed it up in a very simple way, there is no justifying cheating, it is all about personal gain.

And in all fairness you're a booster DDT, so your views on this matter are discarded, you have nothing to offer to this thread right now, if the issue was unknown that would of been another thing, but the truth is you boost and that is a FACT. Keep your bias opinions out of this okay? And carry on cheating your way through the ladder, well done.
Last edited by Desbris#4733 on Nov 3, 2012, 7:50:49 AM
If you don't boost you enjoy throwing time away and hate fun. The game is more fun with the scaled up hp. It's part of the game and not against the rules in any way. It never will be unless they try to make it illegal to have multiple accounts. There's no need to get angry over boosting in Hardcore/Default.

It is bad for races. Sure. I agree completely with that. I don't participate in races because they're at a bad time for me/I don't have time, and I wouldn't be a fan of boosting there but would do it to compete if necessary.

It'd be better if partying with real people were more productive than partying with afk characters. Sure. I agree with that too.

That's not the reality of the situation, though. Saying your opinion is invalid because you boosted is silly. I have no attachment to boosting. I did it because it'd be stupid not to with how the game works right now.
Last edited by Watlok#2219 on Nov 3, 2012, 8:51:46 AM
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Watlok wrote:
If you don't boost you enjoy throwing time away and hate fun. The game is more fun with the scaled up hp. It's part of the game and not against the rules in any way. It never will be unless they try to make it illegal to have multiple accounts. There's no need to get angry over boosting in Hardcore/Default.

It is bad for races. Sure. I agree completely with that. I don't participate in races because they're at a bad time for me/I don't have time, and I wouldn't be a fan of boosting there but would do it to compete if necessary.

It'd be better if partying with real people were more productive than partying with afk characters. Sure. I agree with that too.

That's not the reality of the situation, though. Saying your opinion is invalid because you boosted is silly. I have no attachment to boosting. I did it because it'd be stupid not to with how the game works right now.


You're cheating, and the fact you try to rationalize your reasons explains very much the type of person and gamer you are.
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Desbris wrote:
And in all fairness you're a booster DDT, so your views on this matter are discarded, you have nothing to offer to this thread right now, if the issue was unknown that would of been another thing, but the truth is you boost and that is a FACT. Keep your bias opinions out of this okay? And carry on cheating your way through the ladder, well done.


You do realize that he posted his solutions to the boosting problem several times across different threads? But hes the one that has nothing to offer? You really need to actually read threads that you're posting in instead of making yourself look like a goddamn fool.
IGN: Yeph
Boosting requires multiple accounts, is somewhat inconvenient, affects ALL PLAY, races, normal leagues and is surely not an intentional "feature", to assume that solo boosters should be advantaged vs legitimate solo or party play is incredibly naive (or worse).

I can boost if I want to because I have introduced a bunch of people to POE that no longer play, they are more than willing to lend me their accounts, I choose not to though, because as I see it, it's simply abuse, trying to explain it away as if it's normal, okay or intended is flawed due to various reasons and issues with it.

As it stands, the game is being abused and effectively pay to win for those that are willing to abuse it. You have no argument, don't try.

All I can say is that I'm happy this is happening and investigated in closed beta rather than open beta.

While I do think MrDDT and others have very valid opinions and suggestions on the matter, I don't feel it gives them license to abuse the systems.
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Watlok wrote:
If you don't boost you enjoy throwing time away and hate fun. The game is more fun with the scaled up hp. It's part of the game and not against the rules in any way. It never will be unless they try to make it illegal to have multiple accounts. There's no need to get angry over boosting in Hardcore/Default.

It is bad for races. Sure. I agree completely with that. I don't participate in races because they're at a bad time for me/I don't have time, and I wouldn't be a fan of boosting there but would do it to compete if necessary.

It'd be better if partying with real people were more productive than partying with afk characters. Sure. I agree with that too.

That's not the reality of the situation, though. Saying your opinion is invalid because you boosted is silly. I have no attachment to boosting. I did it because it'd be stupid not to with how the game works right now.


did you just try to justify abusing game mechanics by saying you like to have fun?

seriously,one of the dumbest things i have ever read :D

/facepalm

you know what,i will wait untill you try to sell something,then i will scam you and if you dare to complain i will use the same arguments

1.im having fun by scaming other people and if you dont do it you hate fun
2.its not against rules in any way - devs didnt say players cannot scam others
3.id be stupid not to scam you with how the game works right now

just because you can do something,it doesnt mean you should

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cGramma wrote:
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Desbris wrote:
And in all fairness you're a booster DDT, so your views on this matter are discarded, you have nothing to offer to this thread right now, if the issue was unknown that would of been another thing, but the truth is you boost and that is a FACT. Keep your bias opinions out of this okay? And carry on cheating your way through the ladder, well done.


You do realize that he posted his solutions to the boosting problem several times across different threads? But hes the one that has nothing to offer? You really need to actually read threads that you're posting in instead of making yourself look like a goddamn fool.


If you read anything that I stated beforehand, you would realise that GGG already KNOW about this issue and have for some time now. So what just because he has come forward with the bug and with some possible solutions he should be congratulated for still using an abuse? You're a joke and so what you are saying is just plain stupid, and you are the fool who has no argument, who tries to rationalise the abuse as being fair play.
Last edited by Desbris#4733 on Nov 3, 2012, 10:05:15 AM
How about sticking to the point of the thread instead of chucking insults around?

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