ES nerf and consequences - discuss

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deadlylag wrote:

Spoiler

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Barry wrote:

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deadlylag wrote:

ES was never a problem in the game before patch .11. It became "a problem" because patch .11 forced everybody to go to ES. So now the going to "fix ES".

You can't balance the game for high end players. It doesn't matter how "well you balance the game". What matter is which way the community decided to go.

Getting rid of the top end ES affixes for gear does absolutely nothing to the regular player. Nerfing energy shield by a total of ~8% does, though.

Where did I posted that gears needed a nerf or nerf in general.

All I'm saying is the developers forced everybody to go to ES because of .11. Now they going to fix ES which was never a problem before .11.

I don't agree with the word 'forced' in that sentence since the current trend in regard to ES basically amounts to 'chasing the dragon' - The only real "problem" with ES is the top end, so nerfing high end gear or rebalancing ES/CI nodes in a sensible fashion (flat ES bonus + Lower ES% for example) would be the right approach - At the entry level or average level of gear ES is merely a choice as it should be and life wasn't suddenly completely unplayable after .11. Like i said in a previous post, this is basically an attempt to "balance around the AH", which irritates me.

Whiner everywhere, brb grabbin some Popcorn!

"QQ they nerf my ES from 8k to 7,2k now i cant Play the game anymore. Life is so much better with a zero-link chest! GGG suxx! QQ!"

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deadlylag wrote:

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Shnoop wrote:

Following your logic, the entire game is broken.

1.) Why are you still here if that's the case?

2.) You predicted things? *hands deadlylag a cookie*

You're fanboy and fanboy are the worst people to take advice from. The game is in a decline. All I see are bots farming in normal. The same people in the trade chat. No public games. Even public farming parties have been in a decline.

The game isn't fun for a lot of people because there no new contents.

I'm actually waiting for Marvel ARPG to fix the crashes before I leave PoE.

I'm a realist and yes a fan of PoE. No clue what you mean by "public games". I'm not sure as to how you "see" botting in normal. Trade chat is quite vibrant to say the least in Anarchy. Remember trade chat is "instanced" in the fact there are multiple instances of trade chat going on. Content is pushed out so quickly here no other ARPG can even come close in comparison. It seems you are new to ARPG genre if that's one of your large complaints. This may simply not be the place for you.

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xdjamakx wrote:

Whiner everywhere, brb grabbin some Popcorn!

"QQ they nerf my ES from 8k to 7,2k now i cant Play the game anymore. Life is so much better with a zero-link chest! GGG suxx! QQ!"

I always find comments like these adorable - Sometimes they're apt, but in this case i don't see how this relates to this thread since most of it is what i'd call fairly grounded and constructive criticism of GGG's recent approach to rebalance. If you'd actually read the thread or knew anything about the game that wasn't based on hearsay you'd know that 8k ES isn't the norm, therefor it shouldn't be seen as the basis around which to balance. (Actually most people that complaint about the change seem like people that would appreciate a nerf to top end ES values.) - Troll more, please.

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IceM wrote:

I think its because the community and the developers are trying to hard to keep the game "difficult", game is just not fun to farm. loot drops are worse then d3's with no AH. You are right even the forums have slowed way down, game is in decline and instead of trying to make it more fun, they keep nerfing defense. Game is already artificially hard because drops suck so bad , its a gear wall not skill. Yet they seem to balance the game around people like kripp that just gets all his shit handed to him.

This is and always (hopefully) will be a hardcore environment. The game will not be "dumbed" down and an "ezmode" will not be magically turned on to accommodate the lazy. The loot drops, in my experience, are actually quite more active than D3. I hate the comparison with a passion, but to respond directly to yours it was necessary.

The game is not artificially difficult, it IS difficult. It's meant to be VERY difficult. It's meant to challenge you around every corner. If you want to clear maps in seconds, you best be willing to go through the growing pains to get there.

The Unique drop rate for instance, is MUCH higher here than D3. If you trade smart, you can easily get broken gear for you level. If you trade poorly, yes you'll be stuck for a while. If you don't want to trade. Farm some very easy to get IIR gear in a lower difficulty. If you're not willing to put in the time and effort, don't expect to receive many rewards.

I don't mean to be rude. Please, don't take my words in a disrespectful manner. PoE is simple a different beast.

last patch fucked my 8k es to 7k now it will give another 1k less ? no ty ...

go fuck tanks even more pls rly ...

now viable builds will be only discharger and dual spork nicely done GGG go fuck some builds more so you will get only dual sporker here and dischargers

glad I don't play this game any more about 2 weeks from now, uf don't need to play on fucked build

Ok, apparently i spoke too soon xdjamakx, you're hereby allowed to fetch that popcorn...

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dynia6666 wrote:

now viable builds will be only discharger and dual spork nicely done GGG go fuck some builds more so you will get only dual sporker here and dischargers

Explain Connection between "10% less es" and "destroying builds"...

P.S.: My Tank is at 3600 Life and soloing 72ish maps like cheesecake... the game is already too easy, hopefully there are MUCH more patches like this!

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xdjamakx wrote:

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dynia6666 wrote:

now viable builds will be only discharger and dual spork nicely done GGG go fuck some builds more so you will get only dual sporker here and dischargers

Explain Connection between "10% less es" and "destroying builds"...

P.S.: My Tank is at 3600 Life and soloing 72ish maps like cheesecake... the game is already too easy, hopefully there are MUCH more patches like this!

There will always be people who want PoE to be "ezmode". They will cry and complain for DAYS, but wont put that effort or time into actually farming a character. Instead, they will blame the devs for ruining their time haha. It's an interesting phenomenon.

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Shnoop wrote:

There will always be people who want PoE to be "ezmode". They will cry and complain for DAYS, but wont put that effort or time into actually farming a character. Instead, they will blame the devs for ruining their time haha. It's an interesting phenomenon.

AMEN!