The REAL truth exposed!! (Brought to you by a player in top 10)

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charlyy wrote:

Simply enough, for you "top elite players", don't play 14 hours a day, and then you won't need to buy "100's of chaos" daily, or spend 1000-2000 dollar on RMT ffs.

It's still a game, yet you say it feels like a job, something is wrong there, obviously, but not with the game, instead with your playstyle.

wow you just told players to not play this game . you sir fail


Anyone who thinks that this is not close to what the finished product will be is a complete waste of space.

Take the fucking hint , GGG stated there will be no more resets. That means that the core mechanics of this game are how they want it. That is why they keep adding new gems and cosmetic shit over doing things like fixing the economy that is broken. When a company is adding cosemetic shit and new content to a game where the funadmentals are flawed a smart person would be worried instead of being so damn ignorant of the obvious.

the map system? how they want it
the currency system? how they want it

developers have been using this "open beta" bullshit for ages to lul gullible retards into thinking the crap they shat out is "not indicative of the final product" When really all that separates an open beta and the final release are the words "open beta" and "final release".



you fan boys disgust me

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willnotdisclose wrote:

Just stop arguing with destrogod, he's just arguing for the sake of arguing in an attempt to derail the thread."

I never argued anything in the first place. You and UnderOmerta couldn't keep your insulting tounges under control so you were both given the smack down and I'm more than happy to keep reapplying it.

My first post:

"Am I the only person who doesn't actually believe he's a top tier player? I mean 6 pages and nobody even says "You aren't a top tier player"."

An honest question. That made you both butthurt, for reasons I will never understand. You're like "Oh god I don't need to prove that who I am because I don't care!" and Omerta is like "OMG YOU'RE SUCH A TROLL".

"I respect what you are trying to do OP but without any sort of proof I don't believe you. I could very easily make a new account and claim the same things."

I give you respect, but I say that I can't believe you without proof. Again, more butthurt.

"Anyway, somewhat on topic, I believe that this game has a terrible end game system. The map system needs a complete overhaul. It's just so bad, god. *sigh*."

Me trying to go with your topic a little bit, somehow still butthurt ensues. Again, you both became EXTREMELY defensive and butthurt for absolutely NO REASON. I stated facts. In all honesty it just belittles your credibility further.

In response to the second half of your post:

"This argument is like trying to tell a kid Santa is not real."

Yes, this IS like you trying to tell me Santa is real.

"If he wants to be in denial of the reality that's his choice. We can't fault him for it."

So the fact that acknowledging that he might not be real because there is no proof puts me in denial? Somebody who doesn't believe something told to him without proof is in denail?

Hahaha, so I'm stupid for not believing things told to me without proof? So that means that you must believe every thing you hear.

I'm a top 10 player on my other account and I am here to counter-argue everything you said. None of the top players use RMT and we all manage to farm the end game successfully. But I won't reveal my other identity. Just believe me because IDC. <- This is pretty much how you are trying to prove your points right now. It's so funny.

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It's so easy. Provide a little bit of proof and I'll believe you. You have NO PROOF. There is nothing to argue as nothing you have said has any credibility. You yourself have no credibility. The arguments you present have no credibility. You could honestly not even play this game and just came off of 4chan to troll this board; which if you are I must say you are doing an incredible job! You don't have to reveal names, show a single payment receipt with an RMT website. This shouldn't be hard correct? Anything would work. Awesome? Awesome. Until then there is no credibility. I am not denying who you are, because you might be. However the fact remains that there is no way to prove who you are or aren't. This is worse than trying to talk to a Christian about Agnosticism, sheesh.

And if you want to retort that you don't care about proving who you are, then get off my dick for pointing out that you refuse to and stating the fact that you may or may not be who you claim to be and that your arguments may or may not be true; meaning they shouldn't ever be interpreted as true because they could potentially be false. Thanks.

The map system is bad, Period.
Relying on luck to level your character is a joke.

I don't even like running 66 maps because putting time and currency into killing monsters takes away the "Action" in this ARPG. Why do I like this game and Diablo 2? Because it allows me to kill hordes of monsters and try out different skills...

If I wanted some extra bullshit to go along with monster killing I would play an MMO where I am rewarded for doing quests and get to experience miniature story's...

I own The secret world, Diablo 3, Titan Quest, Torchlight 2 and have played Runescape,Diablo 2, Tera, World of Warcraft and probably a few others I am forgetting.

What does this game have that those others do not? (Besides D2)
Customizable Character's and purely based monster killing grinds...

The current state of maps feels like a quest in a MMO but instead of being granted a map after completing this quest I have to hope I get lucky and get one.

Maps simply cannot be required in order to keep this game fun.

What do I suggest? Maps need to be fun events like uber's in D2. Harder boss's aimed at rewarding a player with gear instead of exp. Leave the main game for the grinding...

Focus on actually making the game fun instead of worrying about the economy and how long you have to grind.
You cannot simply expect people wanting to grind in your game just for the sake of grinding...


Do you know how I played D2? I had a character set up for magic finding, uber running and a few for overall leveling...
What kept it fun for me? Options and rewards for my time.

Doing key runs in order to be able to use my uber character and be rewarded with a torch was great. I even had the ability of searching for clone Diablo which I only found once but it was cool as all hell.

So what is Poe missing? Options...
This game is completely linear with the frustration of getting lucky in order to keep moving forward.

No I am not impressed with the bosses in maps, No I do not feel killing monsters in maps is fun. It's the same exact thing as the main zones!! As stated nobody actually cares about the modifiers... They just want to continue with maps because they are forced too...

You cannot call maps endgame content if you ask me. It is just recycling the game with higher level zone content.
Not to mention end game should imply that you can actually hit max level and it is suppose to be harder then the regular game... Guess what? most of act 3 is harder then 66 maps. I started 66 maps in progression with fellshrine ruins.
Yes that's right your so called end game content can be easier then regular game content. While I have not done higher maps I still feel that alone is a flawed.

If you want to separate the hardcore gamer from the average gamer then do it! Make maps harder but leave it for those who can actually handle it and let the average more casual player get slaughtered when attempting it.

Don't half ass your goals. Either make this game hard for those people who like hard games like dark souls or make it an ARPG that is aimed at killing a ton of monsters...
Your current middle ground is doing nothing but frustrating people.

This will be my last response to you destrogod because it appears your are becoming enraged while the rest of us are calm having conversations.

I didn't come on the forums today to "out" individual specific players as,
1. I play with them and friends with some of them
2. Because its against the rules to do so
3. Will not solve the big problem as a whole

Therefore I wouldn't be allowed nor would I want to jeopardize the accounts of those who have thousands of real dollars and thousand s of playtime hours invested.

The purpose of me coming here today was to expose the system in general as a whole and shed light to what GGGs decisions are doing to the game in a negative way. As many have stated this information is not new (well I guess it's new to you) and many already know this is going on. Unfortunately many don't know the extend of the problem and how bad it really is. Nobody knows just how much money is being invested into RMT and nobody (minus a select few) really know just how far it goes and how bad it is. I promise you the problem also stretches far beyond the top 25 players.

Also exposing the actual players and having their accounts locked will not solve the problem in any way. It's a band aid.

You chose not to believe it that's your choice. Once you get a bit more experience your tune might change.

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willnotdisclose wrote:

You chose not to believe it that's your choice. Once you get a bit more experience your tune might change.

Great! So I choose to believe in fact, which I reiterate being that you may or may not be who you claim to be and the arguments that you present may or may not be true. I am happy that you seem to understand this entire situation now.

Your thread could be "I am Obama: The TRUTH about 9/11" and then when somebody, like myself, comes out and says you could potentially not be Obama and to prove it, you say:

"I didn't come here to prove I'm Obama and quite frankly I don't care for anyone's skepticism. I am just here to say that there will be another war in a year! Believe me, I know because I am the president."

It's hilarious! I really just want people to emphasize the absurdity of this for everybody. This was my goal and I feel quite successful.

And enraged? No, I'm laughing so hard. This is so ridiculous it's entertaining.

edit: Let me do another

"The REAL truth explosed (Brought to you by a dinosaur)"

But you are potentially not a dinosaur!

"I'm not here to prove I'm a dinosaur and quite frankly I don't care for anyone's skepticism. I am just here to say that the dinosaurs will rise from the earth and take over the world."

You can replace it with aliens, dragons, and really anything you want! It's quite fun.

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DestroTheGod wrote:

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willnotdisclose wrote:

You chose not to believe it that's your choice. Once you get a bit more experience your tune might change.

Great! So I choose to believe in fact, which I reiterate being that you may or may not be who you claim to be and the arguments that you present may or may not be true. I am happy that you seem to understand this entire situation now.

Your thread could be "I am Obama: The TRUTH about 9/11" and then when somebody, like myself, comes out and says you could potentially not be Obama and to prove it, you say:

"I didn't come here to prove I'm Obama and quite frankly I don't care for anyone's skepticism. I am just here to say that there will be another war in a year! Believe me, I know because I am the president."

It's hilarious! I really just want people to emphasize the absurdity of this for everybody. This was my goal and I feel quite successful.

And enraged? No, I'm laughing so hard. This is so ridiculous it's entertaining.

edit: Let me do another

"The REAL truth explosed (Brought to you by a dinosaur)"

But you are potentially not a dinosaur!

"I'm not here to prove I'm a dinosaur and quite frankly I don't care for anyone's skepticism. I am just here to say that the dinosaurs will rise from the earth and take over the world."

You can replace it with aliens, dragons, and really anything you want! It's quite fun.

not really , mostly you come off as an abrasive asshat , in that regard you are a marvelous success i do believe

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Chris wrote:

We're aware that some players engage in RMT - we ban approximately 1000 accounts per week on average. We've caused several RMT sites to close down their PoE operations after continued countermeasures and loss of stock. A lot of effort is put towards attacking it in this way. I have banned individual players for selling items in even small quantities. We'd welcome any suggestions on how we can improve our attack on RMT.

As I've mentioned before, we're experimenting with ideas for having high-level experience gain come from areas other than Maps. These ideas haven't yet made it into the game, but should do before release, if not earlier.

I understand that it's frustrating that the game isn't finished yet and that the current end-game Map runs aren't an ideal solution for levelling towards 100. I think you'll be pleased with our future plans, as they do address this. Thanks for your feedback about it, it's useful!

Thanks for response Chris,

Remember banning companies accounts and operations is good, but banning some guy who is just buying stuff in order to have fun in your game is not. The solution shouldn't be to remove that player out of the game he loves and tried to have fun in with RM, the solution should be to provide him with enough incentives to play the game legitimately while having fun in the process.

I hope we get to that stage relatively soon.

Maybe you could explore something like, increasing map drops but anytime you pick up a map, it is bound to the character you picked it up with and you cannot open it on any other character of yours. This would maybe allow continued progression forward with 1 character, without going back in time, while ensuring the same effort is put forth on your next character.

May be stupid idea but it could work.

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Remember banning companies accounts and operations is good, but banning some guy who is just buying stuff in order to have fun in your game is not.

I totally disagree! They are cheating, and in direct violation of the ToU. BAN is what they should do when they catch such folks, and when they do, if they have microtransactions, they should ban the real identity as well.

--C

Frankly speaking i don't think anyone will be happy until hitting the level cap is decoupled from maps.

the original fun of maps when i first heard of them as that of a spice to liven up the leveling experience every now and then .

Let us all be honest , the current drop rate of maps would be absolutely fine if there was an alternative place to farm that was constantly available for use. Maps would be the spice of the leveling race by acting like the diversions they are supposed to be.


as the op pointed out , no one does the more fun map mods and i think that reason alone shows how desperately we need another method of farming.


right now i get the feeling the devs are trying to make the currency sinks in the game a part of core progression and at the same time making them cost so much as to liken them to a luxury. which i think is a mistake.

We can all agree that gambling is never anything other than luxury. Yet it deeply interwoven with Poe's currency system.

those are two conflicting forces. necessity cannot also be luxury. doing so only leads to the alienation of most of the player base