The REAL truth exposed!! (Brought to you by a player in top 10)

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HopTortoise wrote:

what if they did the same thing to magic finding in general? if you dont find a unique item in a given area more than 10x in a row, you are forced backwards one area in the game. right back until normal hillock. you dont like it? grind hillock for that unique drop, maybe it will be godly!! then you can go to the next level and you will have your 10 tries to get to the next one....

LOL this is a wonderful analogy.

Yep, if you don't find that unique in that area, you lose your waypoints and have to start from the previous waypoint. And if you don't get a unique there, you have to go further back until you're at the very start of the game.

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DestroTheGod wrote:

Am I the only person who doesn't actually believe he's a top tier player? I mean 6 pages and nobody even says "You aren't a top tier player".

I respect what you are trying to do OP but without any sort of proof I don't believe you. I could very easily make a new account and claim the same things.

Anyway, somewhat on topic, I believe that this game has a terrible end game system. The map system needs a complete overhaul. It's just so bad, god. *sigh*.

I didn't come here to prove I'm in the top and quite frankly I don't care for anyone's skepticism. I came here to open people's eyes to the truth of what goes on behind closed doors at the top of the ladder. The reason why many are not questioning the legitimacy of this thread is because majority of the people posting actually have some experience with end game and realize that this thread is not unreasonable by any means.

You can chose to question it but in time you will realize how realistic this thread is.

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willnotdisclose wrote:

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DestroTheGod wrote:

Am I the only person who doesn't actually believe he's a top tier player? I mean 6 pages and nobody even says "You aren't a top tier player".

I respect what you are trying to do OP but without any sort of proof I don't believe you. I could very easily make a new account and claim the same things.

Anyway, somewhat on topic, I believe that this game has a terrible end game system. The map system needs a complete overhaul. It's just so bad, god. *sigh*.

I didn't come here to prove I'm in the top and quite frankly I don't care for anyone's skepticism. I came here to open people's eyes to the truth of what goes on behind closed doors at the top of the ladder. The reason why many are not questioning the legitimacy of this thread is because majority of the people posting actually have some experience with end game and realize that this thread is not unreasonable by any means.

You can chose to question it but in time you will realize how realistic this thread is.

maybe one week after being in the maps part of the game, you realize sustaining a high level map pool is impossible. you have to have high map quantity (90%+) and amazing rolls like maze/pack size/rare monsters/etc just to have a hope of keeping the maps coming. there is no other way to have a lot of the currency you need except by buying it. especially exalted.. i have a theory the RMT sites are hoarding exalteds, and used low ratio numbers on that site everyone used at the beginning of the open beta. then they inflated the price after controlling the supply.

i've gotten to lvl76-77 maps maybe 4 times now.. it always end up the same way where the maps don't drop any map at all. not even a lvl66.

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UnderOmerta wrote:

There's been plenty of people who stated he wasn't an elite/top player, including people who claim that he can't be a top player because he plays in "scrubcore." Reading can be pretty fun.

Please give me some quotes, I guess I must have missed them. I'd love to see the people who agree with me. :)

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willnotdisclose wrote:

I didn't come here to prove I'm in the top and quite frankly I don't care for anyone's skepticism.

That's fine. It is your opinion that you don't need to defend your position. It is my opinion that anybody who believes you are who you claim to be, as there is no proof, is misguided. While you do bring up fair points, there is absolutely no factual backing to the majority of it, so this thread is a conspiracy thread. I am happy that I can make this conclusion.

Have fun with the conspiracy gentleman.

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DestroTheGod wrote:

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UnderOmerta wrote:

There's been plenty of people who stated he wasn't an elite/top player, including people who claim that he can't be a top player because he plays in "scrubcore." Reading can be pretty fun.

Please give me some quotes, I guess I must have missed them. I'd love to see the people who agree with me. :)

How about you read the thread instead of trolling?

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Fb62 wrote:

Not to mention this scrub is on scrubcore.

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Nithryok wrote:

Stopped reading after that, you are clearly full of sthako if you think you are "elite" on default.

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mohican wrote:

>I'm an "elite"
have played only 1 build, play on Scrubcore, use RMT( on Scrubcore!)

Oh god I'm in tears.

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Raycheetah wrote:

Given the sizable cadre of forum posters who absolutely love to run this game into the ground, I am more than a little suspicious of this thread. Why would an "elite player" feel the need to out himself and his fellows?

More like just another troll, making up a story to support the negative narrative they love to weave. While I am sure that there are people in ALL tiers of play who rely on RMT gear to get ahead, this "anonymous confession" doesn't add up.

That said, RMT traders are the greedy, preying on the lazy. ='[.]'=

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SL4Y3R wrote:

While I am glad you made this post, the truth of the matter is, you are by no means elite. This is like saying I use game genie, and I'm the best SNES player in (insert game here). Sorry.

Besides, whether or not he's "elite" is moot. How many players do you know sustain all level 74+ maps without resorting to buying them?

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While you do bring up fair points, there is absolutely no factual backing to the majority of it, so this thread is a conspiracy thread. I am happy that I can make this conclusion.

Have fun with the conspiracy gentleman.

Uh you realize many people already know the facts that this topic contains.. right? It's not exactly a state secret that it's near impossible to maintain high level maps even with unlimited wealth.

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UnderOmerta wrote:

How about you read the thread instead of trolling?

Oh god man I'm such a troll for asking if I'm the only person that didn't think he was legit. Man you got me. I was trolling so hard asking that question.

Might I suggest you stop being so butthurt about literally nothing? I've said nothing offensive to you and you're crying so hard, lol. Grow up.

Next point,

Just because somebody is in softcore doesn't mean they aren't a top tier player. HvR is a top tier player. WAH WAH hc elitists want to call softcore not elite. Too bad, HvR is an elite player, deal with it. Elite = Top ~100 on a ladder. When cutthroat comes out, and it's not HC, are you going to whine that the top CT players aren't elite because it's not one life? That's how stupid everybody saying 'softcore isn't elite' sounds to me.

Regardless of that though, when I say he is or isn't elite, this guy could literally be a random guy who has one level 10 character. This is my point, which you so eloquently misinterpreted. Hell, maybe this is his first account and he actually has never even created a character in game. He's just here to make up bullshit for his pure amusement The specific definition of defines an elite player is almost entirely irrelevant in this current situation.

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Fb62 wrote:

Not to mention this scrub is on scrubcore.

Elitism != Not a top tier player

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Nithryok wrote:

Stopped reading after that, you are clearly full of sthako if you think you are "elite" on default.

Elitism != Not a top tier player

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mohican wrote:

>I'm an "elite"
have played only 1 build, play on Scrubcore, use RMT( on Scrubcore!)

Oh god I'm in tears.

Elitism != Not a top tier player

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Raycheetah wrote:

Given the sizable cadre of forum posters who absolutely love to run this game into the ground, I am more than a little suspicious of this thread. Why would an "elite player" feel the need to out himself and his fellows?

More like just another troll, making up a story to support the negative narrative they love to weave. While I am sure that there are people in ALL tiers of play who rely on RMT gear to get ahead, this "anonymous confession" doesn't add up.

That said, RMT traders are the greedy, preying on the lazy. ='[.]'=

Hey you got one post that I missed out of 7 pages. Congratz!

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SL4Y3R wrote:

While I am glad you made this post, the truth of the matter is, you are by no means elite. This is like saying I use game genie, and I'm the best SNES player in (insert game here). Sorry.

<- Elitism != Not a top tier player

"Besides, whether or not he's "elite" is moot. How many players do you know sustain all level 74+ maps without resorting to buying them?"

It's not moot. If somebody comes into this thread claiming to be something they aren't, they are a liar. How is that not obvious? His thread has two parts, he wants to talk about the activities of the top tier players using facts that he has absolutely no support to show whether they are true or not. The second is he is claiming to be something that he has absolutely no proof whether or not he is or isn't.

There is no proof behind anything he is saying. The topic is fine to discuss, that's absolutely great, but trying to use the fact, "The top players use RMT" is absolutely stupid, as there is no proof, and if there is I'm sure GGG would ban them. :)

So anyway, in conclusion, I missed one response out of 7 and you got butthurt. I'm actually kind of laughing a bit from that. I'll leave you with one last bit of wisdom for putting me in a good mood and because I'm feeling generous. Go reread the definition of trolling.

Good trolls don't walk into a room proudly slapping their e-peen against everybody's shin; that's too juvenile. No, good trolls misdirect by appealing to peoples' sensibilities.

Given the insubstantial-but-otherwise-too-believable claims about RMT, its likewise insubstantial use to lend evidence to a claim, and then an insubstantial claim at a status which would lend credibility to that evidence, this fits the bill for a well conceive troll. But the feedback is valid, and the nature of the rest of the post does not indicate trollish intent.

On the other hand, claims that the OP is not of credible status are likewise insubstantial-but-otherwise-too-believable, and serve no purpose but to misdirect (see also: derail) by appealing to the sensible notion that somebody on the internet is not who they say they are. The nature of these posts indicate a desire for repeated e-peen -> shin contact.

In conclusion? Meh, I just felt like typing a bunch of nonsense about nothing.

Good feedback, btw.

Game isn't finished, stop trying to finish the game.

You're choosing to do something that even conceptually is friggin hard. You'll kick yourself when the higher level normal content is released and everyone else breezes through (relative to what you're experiencing) to where you are now.

I commend you for the commitment to get however high you are, but I doubt GGG will do much about end game stuff now as they don't need to. Sooner or later lvl 70ish maps won't be the real endgame maps anyway

Just stop arguing with destrogod, he's just arguing for the sake of arguing in an attempt to derail the thread.

This argument is like trying to tell a kid Santa is not real. If he wants to be in denial of the reality that's his choice. We can't fault him for it.