The REAL truth exposed!! (Brought to you by a player in top 10)
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does p2w mean play to win? what do you win exactly? some trophy? some huge amount of money enabling you to support yourself+family for the forseeable future?
a game is a game to be enjoyed on occassion, its a pretty sad person who has nothing else in life. |
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" of course it is. but you see, I had no problems running a level 70 map with 2 guys at my level, and when I joined a party of 3 slightly higher level players - we even ran a rare level 72 map with little trouble. that's the whole point: solo is crap in this game. especially if you're melee like me. you either hit the wall early, or hit it late - but you can't go all the way. " even if I had serious Magic Find Gear in stash, wearing it and thereby giving-up on the resists, attack-speed and other more vital bonuses on my equipped gear - will make sure nothing will be an "easy place". well Ledge maybe, but certainly not Docks. "surely give enough currency"? RNG called. he asked to tell you "ha ha". nothing is "sure". you can get an Exalt or a mirror from Hillock on Normal, and become instantly super-rich. but you'll most likely grind map after map without any return of investment, until you go broke. " well how many runs of the same damn area can you do, before you get bored to tears? what happens if you get to a point, where each run is something like 1% exp? can you solo any map up to level 69 for instance, with MF gear? I know I still try to avoid the level 66 Dungeon, because OHKO-splash boss Brutus and his pack of elite poison archers kill me at least once, while I'm in my normal gear. and I try to avoid Lunaris 2 Kole for the same reason. bottom line is, the maps are a good idea gone bad. and the reason it went bad, is because it makes all the problems in the game surface and smack you in the face: the ranged/summoner/melee imbalance, the RNG, the gear-checks, the desync, the lack of viability playing solo, the "IIQ or you're screwed"... the lack of real alternative leveling and gearing content to maps - despite the level-up of Act 3 areas - is obviously a Beta thing, but I really don't like where this is going. because even if there will be alternative content at release - and I'm sure there will - the balance of power is very, very unlikely to shift from "luck + no-life + coop-only = progress" to "skill = progress". the devs' definition of "Hardcore" seems to be "an endless-grinding team of no-lifers" instead of "a skilful player with deep understanding of mechanics", and they built this game accordingly. going back on-topic of this thread, RMT sites are like vultures smelling a fresh corpse. they "fill the void" created by all the problems plaguing this game. so an integral part of the "war on RMT" - is fixing all those problems, which won't happen because a large part of said problems originate from GGG's own philosophy. Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat Shadow: That was fun Last edited by johnKeys#6083 on May 23, 2013, 5:08:51 AM
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Although i stopped playing Poe, i sometimes check the forums. When i read this threat there is a thing a want to say about it.
I dont like the attitude of the OP at all. He and the group that things they are elitist have made there own choices how they approach this game. If you spend money to buy maps and what not that is something that has nothing to do with this game. It tells a lot about your ego's and pay to win mentality. If you think that Poe has shortcomings towards high end leveling, just quit playing. And if you spend money to force this race without a trophy then dont whine on the forums. Its good to know how this group of elitist is buying there way to the top, so thank you for that information, but it is like listening to ppl with a drug addiction.. |
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Level 72 is incredibly low and you should not at all expect to be rolling through level 70 maps at that level. Furthermore the disparity between melee end ranged is well known by now and is a totally see prate issue deserving of its own thread. Also, because the economy has matured so much it should not at all be difficult to adequately gear yourself to a point where you can confidently do even high level rare maps. Again, sadly with the assumption you are not playing a gimped archetype (melee).
Solo play is, in general, very difficult compared to group play and without getting involved into your personal reasons I have to ask why wouldn't you find a nice group of friends to play with. If i was playing solo i would have quit a long time ago because imo co-operation and grou play is the best part of the poe. Finally, I remember not doing maps at all until late 80s on my witch if anyone can believe that. IGN: Arlianth
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This thread is hilarious.
43 pages. Wow. I agree that there are a lot of issues but as we all now its beta. Tho its good to be discussed. IGN: SwaggerOfWreaclast
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" I personally appreciate this players honesty but I really wish players would not play the game to be godly but to be creative and inventive in their builds. I find this type of mentality to be heavy in most mmorpgs but I wish it was not so. I personally see the solution as GGG opening up more creative freedom in the passive skill tree and more options to run. I think a year ago the passive tree was considered over whelming but I think with many of the changes and additions to the passive tree it does not feel quite so tedious anymore and I would personally like to see another path added on. Players get too focused on copying other players builds that they don't seem to want to venture outside of that sense of security and stability. I would also like to see full respec options up to level 25/28 passives so that players can have experimental freedom as well as a chance to learn the game as well as the passive tree without having to start over repeatedly. I think that adding in a low level respec option was the solution to many of the passive skill tree confusion issues. The reason im focusing on the passive tree in regards to cheating, is that if players had more directions and ways to go; Than they might get out of this boxed thinking that being number 1 is the name of the game rather than seeing it as legos where you build your own unique character. The pride from creating something unique is often more rewarding than just being at the top of the ladder or overtly wealthy. I believe this was GGG's original game direction but they diversified themselves to cater to a larger demographic. The only problem I see with that, is that players start the game expecting to do the same ol same ol which will inevitably involve cheating. It happens with almost all mmorpgs that set linear goals and directions for players. Last edited by psythos#5874 on May 23, 2013, 12:25:49 PM
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" Or just maybe those other guys were better than you and you were getting carried? |
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" level 70 map - no. it was true coop and everybody did their bit. level 72 map - definitely. because I couldn't tank stuff like I always do, so I just stayed back like a cowardly cat, and threw rejuvenation and skelly totems into the fray. both I had no chance of soloing. my point being, even if you are very good and have a very awesome (ranged/summoner) build - you can still go only so far before hitting a difficulty wall, "economic wall", or both. after that YOU MUST stop playing solo, and go coop. even if you'll be carried. otherwise you won't get too far. correct me if I'm wrong. Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat Shadow: That was fun Last edited by johnKeys#6083 on May 23, 2013, 1:21:09 PM
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" You are correct that playing solo at endgame has severe disadvantages over playing in a group. I will not argue with ya there. You can however continue playing solo, but you will have to farm a lot more and you will most likely never progress past level 70-72 maps, at least that is my experience. The map drop system is actually one of my main issues with the game currently, along with reflect mechanics. Last edited by thepmrc#0256 on May 23, 2013, 2:05:59 PM
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Even the developers have admitted that group play is "objectively easier". The sad fact is that it's easier in terms of gameplay AND it's far easier on the wallet. Solo players just get the shaft.
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