From "Diablo Killer" to "Advertisement for why you should go back to Diablo 4".

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tyrespoe#5113 wrote:
PoE2 feels a bit like they took the worst, most anti-player ideas from D4 and PoE1, then blended it all up and released it as a new game, without bothering to playtest it whatsoever.


sadly this. there are so many mechanics and design choices that are anti-fun and time wasters, often both.
PoE 2 has a good foundation but it needs lots and lots of work. Also some super weird design choices where taken like "we want the combat to be slow and methodical" and then the first mechanics they added are gotta go fast mechanics like Breach and Delirium!

Also forcing Sanctum on people was such a bad choice and to make it worse they made it far far more horrible then PoE 1 sanctum.

Endgame is not good at all but I give it a pass since they rushed it so there is at least something.

Again WEIRD design choices for ascendancies, we have stuff like the Blood mage where you have to take a forced disadvantage with your first points while your first points should be a huge FUCK YEAH!

Build diversity is not there, even with double the skill gems it will feel like Diablo 4 skill twig.

The oneshots in maps will just make sure I will look for ways to insta clear the screen to avoid one shot kills. lol slow and methodical.

Melee... urgs most of the times I can't melee and clear the rare mob with my ranged ability because I cant get close because ground effects or other random crap.

also lmao minions. The uber bosses called door and narrow path just cannot be beat!
Last edited by MaxW81#9965 on Jan 9, 2025, 4:47:56 AM
7500H PoE1 Player here.
After approximately 150H with PoE2, it makes me reroll a new char on grim dawn, made me buy DiabloIV + extension during winter steam sales, and try warframe for the first time. <3
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KingHadu#3474 wrote:
Diablo 4 female sorceress looks like a ugly man.

It's enough for me to never touch that game

At least POE 2's Witch and Sorc are HOT AF


This.
Somewhere in the design process is a serious problem. We've seen this issue many times in Poe1 where they claim to want to slow the game down, whilst adding timer based league mechanics that require high clear speed. There's some serious miss management and lack of foresight in everything they do, unless they realise that Poe2 will just be a mess.
I have a ton of complaints about PoE 2 (mostly endgame related), but it's not fair to compare this EA with Diblo 4 actual release.

In a year's time PoE 2 will look a lot different, with many issues solved and improved - that you can bet on. Then we can compare Dumblo 4 v1.0 against PoE 2 v1.0.

I've never played Diabetus 4, but from what I've heard, I'd rather reroll a life-armor 2H Warrior right now in PoE 2.
When night falls
She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
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morbo#1824 wrote:
I have a ton of complaints about PoE 2 (mostly endgame related), but it's not fair to compare this EA with Diblo 4 actual release.

In a year's time PoE 2 will look a lot different, with many issues solved and improved - that you can bet on. Then we can compare Dumblo 4 v1.0 against PoE 2 v1.0.

I've never played Diabetus 4, but from what I've heard, I'd rather reroll a life-armor 2H Warrior right now in PoE 2.


it is fair when it's the same game engine but they couldn't even copy and paste league mechanics with the same polish

ritual

expedition

strongboxes

are all 10x worse than their counterparts. this is a 5+ year of already invested development with a 6 month release goal. they haven't even updated their "news" section since dec16th. it's fair also when they have a working mtx shop. the game is live
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toxiitea#5772 wrote:
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morbo#1824 wrote:
I have a ton of complaints about PoE 2 (mostly endgame related), but it's not fair to compare this EA with Diblo 4 actual release.

In a year's time PoE 2 will look a lot different, with many issues solved and improved - that you can bet on. Then we can compare Dumblo 4 v1.0 against PoE 2 v1.0.

I've never played Diabetus 4, but from what I've heard, I'd rather reroll a life-armor 2H Warrior right now in PoE 2.


it is fair when it's the same game engine but they couldn't even copy and paste league mechanics with the same polish

ritual

expedition

strongboxes

are all 10x worse than their counterparts. this is a 5+ year of already invested development with a 6 month release goal. they haven't even updated their "news" section since dec16th. it's fair also when they have a working mtx shop. the game is live



Nope. All endgame content started being developed 6 months ago. Can’t you feel the enormous shift from feeling like Poe 2 to feeling like Poe 1 once you reach endgame? Endgame is admittedly, and OBVIOUSLY in the early stages of development still. Early access doesn’t have a 6 month release goal, they said they expect 6 months at the minimum, and it will take as long as it needs to.

The game is in early access not full release. Mtx existing isn’t what defines this. Literally half the game is missing if that isn’t obvious to you already.
Last edited by ogmersault#4806 on Jan 9, 2025, 7:01:29 AM
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b_ko#7756 wrote:
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KingHadu#3474 wrote:
Diablo 4 female sorceress looks like a ugly man.

It's enough for me to never touch that game

At least POE 2's Witch and Sorc are HOT AF


This.

You guys clearly need glasses.

Last edited by _ZLoBny_#7128 on Jan 9, 2025, 7:04:17 AM
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morbo#1824 wrote:
I have a ton of complaints about PoE 2 (mostly endgame related), but it's not fair to compare this EA with Diblo 4 actual release.

In a year's time PoE 2 will look a lot different, with many issues solved and improved - that you can bet on. Then we can compare Dumblo 4 v1.0 against PoE 2 v1.0.

I've never played Diabetus 4, but from what I've heard, I'd rather reroll a life-armor 2H Warrior right now in PoE 2.



That's a nice list.

They really sold the hype for PoE 2 while delivering nothing but frustration and imported stuff from PoE1. f**ing disgusting.

All the money spent on that huge campaign of ads (still ongoing with sponsored youtube creators + ads everywhere on the internet) to deliver this husk of a project of something.

Calling this Early Access is misleading af. this is more like year 1 stage of development, a live crowdfunding campaign than Early Access
Last edited by khuzvhan#0406 on Jan 9, 2025, 7:50:03 AM

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